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Old 08-08-2006, 09:58 AM   #21
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:02 AM   #22
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I don't know what the odds are, but making across the board assumptions are kind of silly I think. Age really has nothing to do with it, up to a point, and you can take every MSF class on earth and it won't teach commen sense OR make a litre bike any SAFER.
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How old is this guy wanting the literbike?

28. I just couldnt get over some of the examples being used in there reasoning. I mean, they just completed the MSF course and I swear they used some of the examples that were used to inform you what are NOT good reasons to use when getting a bike...:laughing6
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I don't know what the odds are, but making across the board assumptions are kind of silly I think. Age really has nothing to do with it, up to a point, and you can take every MSF class on earth and it won't teach commen sense OR make a litre bike any SAFER.
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and i guess you wear as mature at 20 then you were at 40, right...........me, NO.

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I have another friend. He was a new rider at the time. He went out and bought a brand new R1 for his first bike. He got down the road to a stop light. Waited. Light turned green, bike wheelied on him. Managed to bring it back down, waited a few seconds, turned the bike back around to the dealership and just bought a ZX6 instead. :laughing6
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and i guess you wear as mature at 20 then you were at 40, right...........me, NO.
ME? I was married w/3 kids already...........but I ride faster and more frequently now then I did then, and now my reflexes are slower and I probably have more on my mind now..........but I've taken the MSF now.

Bigger/faster bikes............27 years older.......... wear gear ALL the time, took the MSF AND got a license, am I safer now?:eh:
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and i guess you wear as mature at 20 then you were at 40, right...........me, NO.
not sure if you were referring to me or not, but I'm 22...
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he's a lucky one.........had 1 of my students run into a building on his new R1. before the class of course. he confidence in bikes was worse then the rest of the students cuz he was so afraid of the throttle. and he thought he was mature........just didn't have the skill.......

it's a culmination of alot of things...........take 1 out, and it easily leads to disaster. beginner bikes are much more forgiving of these types of errors.
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ME? I was married w/3 kids already...........but I ride faster and more frequently now then I did then, and now my reflexes are slower and I probably have more on my mind now..........but I've taken the MSF now.

Bigger/faster bikes............27 years older.......... wear gear ALL the time, took the MSF AND got a license, am I safer now?:eh:
and at 20, were you "the norm" and considering nowadays kids...........NOT. just cuz you "made it" doesn't mean it's the norm. if it were why is ins. on 600's as bad as 1k........cuz they DON'T crash?

sure many "make it"............most don't

and the one's that have made it, have alot less skill then somebody who started in a smaller bike.
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..but I ride faster
You need to lean that Duck though Mang!!!!:icon_bigg
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he's a lucky one.........had 1 of my students run into a building on his new R1. before the class of course. he confidence in bikes was worse then the rest of the students cuz he was so afraid of the throttle. and he thought he was mature........just didn't have the skill.......

it's a culmination of alot of things...........take 1 out, and it easily leads to disaster. beginner bikes are much more forgiving of these types of errors.
I saw a guy hit a curb the other day...guess he thought the clutch was the break...
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Why lean............I keep up with you and just CRUISE!!!!:laughing6
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to most people getting a liter bike as a first bike is not so smart of an idea, but after all it's all about how much throttle you twist.
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to most people getting a liter bike as a first bike is not so smart of an idea, but after all it's all about how much throttle you twist.
and nothing to do w/ steering geometry, riding position, killer brakes, or maturity?
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...or clutch control
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yeah, that too.
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Braking and Featherin the clutch are pretty important...I'd think. N e body can ride fast...but can you manuever in tight areas w/o touchin your feet to the ground is the question. AND, if forced to stop quickly...will you have allowed for enough room to stop will you stop or can you swerve properly w/o bustin your ...
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