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Old 11-12-2010, 01:59 AM   #1
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When its your time its your time......

Ive been riding for a year now and everyone that knows or finds out I ride tells me to sell my bike and get a car because Im going to end up killing myself. They say that by being on a bike I am helping the chances of me dying. I personally love riding and I refuse to give it up but I also think that when its ur time its ur time and regardless of you being on a bike or sitting on the couch at home if its ur time to go then you cant do anything about it. I believe that if I die on my bike then it was meant to be and it was my time to go.....am i the only one that thinks that way? or do ya think that by being on a bike we are actually "helping" the chance of dying?
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:15 AM   #2
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:17 AM   #3
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I ride because i want to, i mean we are all dying anyway when you think about it. So why not enjoy the time you have here?
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do what makes you happy. If you feel it is worth the risk then it is. Life is short, live it like you want to. Be sure and where gear though. It at least reduces the chance of death or injury.
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Fatalism is for idiots. It's the excuse people use for not wearing helmets. The more stupid that you do the sooner you are likely to meet your "fate"

Riding significantly increases the risk that you might be maimed or killed, but there are many factors that you have at your control which can significantly increase or decrease the chances that it will happen to you. Education, experience, when, where, how, with whom and with what gear you ride all can have a huge influence on the risk you incur when riding. Manage the risk, don't ignore risk and attribute the outcome fate.
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Fact: You are definitely going to die.

False: You have no control over the date.

That fate stuff may make you feel warm and fuzzy, or help you deal with the fact that motorcycles are inherently dangerous, but there is no logic to it. Of course you are putting yourself at risk, DUH. If you forget about the risk you'll get complacent and that's bad. Just remember most crashes can be controlled with the two things in your right hand (while on the bike).

Oh, and to people telling you what to do? Tell them to go kick rocks, and go play in their padded rooms.
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Not everyone meets strange men in the back of a car by Memorial Park, Bevo...
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Well they used to ride Harleys, but apprarently Holtsclaw hangs around there too.
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Maybe they are just telling you that you suck at it. Some people just have no business on a bike. I am not saying it applies to you, but it could. I have told a friend the same thing. He agrees though.
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Ive been riding for a year now and everyone that knows or finds out I ride tells me to sell my bike and get a car because Im going to end up killing myself. They say that by being on a bike I am helping the chances of me dying. I personally love riding and I refuse to give it up but I also think that when its ur time its ur time and regardless of you being on a bike or sitting on the couch at home if its ur time to go then you cant do anything about it. I believe that if I die on my bike then it was meant to be and it was my time to go.....am i the only one that thinks that way? or do ya think that by being on a bike we are actually "helping" the chance of dying?
Do they say this simply because you ride a bike, or do they say this because you ride like a ?
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EVERYTHING in life is a risk. Too much of anything is bad.

It is up to us to get maximum enjoyment, while deciding on what our acceptable risk is for doing such activities.

I am not a fatalist, I understand that EVERYTHING that happens to me in life, conciously, sub-conciously, directly my actions by some degree.

It may not be my fault I die in a plane accident, but I accepted the risk that it may happen, or I wouldn't get on. Conversely (proper term??) If I decide to drive, rather than fly, because I don't like the risks of flying...and I get killed in a car or bike accident, again, my actions help determine my demise.


One may not know about the mugging they are going to get at the store, but they went to the store regardless, knowing the associated risks...or not.


Fatalist act like I can do whatever I want, and nothing will kill me until time is up. I have a christian friend who is a fatalist, and doesn't give a about his actions..."I'm not in a rush to get to heaven, but chooses when I go, so I'm good to do whatever until that time". Its crazy. WE determine when we go, based off long term, and short term accute risks.

Its a game off addition. You can add less, but you can not subtract. The numbers will stack up.

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Fatalism is for idiots. It's the excuse people use for not wearing helmets. The more stupid that you do the sooner you are likely to meet your "fate"

Riding significantly increases the risk that you might be maimed or killed, but there are many factors that you have at your control which can significantly increase or decrease the chances that it will happen to you. Education, experience, when, where, how, with whom and with what gear you ride all can have a huge influence on the risk you incur when riding. Manage the risk, don't ignore risk and attribute the outcome fate.
+1, and I access the risk and decide what I am willing to risk or not risk. My choice at the moment is that I wont ride. Sold all my bikes, but do ride a cruiser here and there, but not like I use to ride. I also use to ride only track, but that was my choice. Right now the risk is not worth it to me, life it way to good right now
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Fatalism is beyond stupid. Justifying risk with it is even worse. Passing on a helmet because of fate is equivalent to walking across a freeway. Everyone dies, idiots tend to die sooner than necessary.
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