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Old 11-02-2010, 11:15 AM   #1
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lowest maintenance 4 stroke tard

I'm considering selling/trading my gixxer trackbike for a tard. I have next to no experience with dirt bikes, and even less with trying to put them on tarmac. Which tards are the most reliable? I know a CRF450 seems to be the race weapon of choice because of power, but I've heard they like to toss valves. Any other bikes to consider/avoid?
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:35 AM   #2
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DRZ400 is easily the least maintenance intensive bike of the bunch.

oil change every 2000 - 2500 miles.
valve check every 14,500 miles.

turn it on, give it gas, & smile
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DRZ400 is easily the least maintenance intensive bike of the bunch.

oil change every 2000 - 2500 miles.
valve check every 14,500 miles.

turn it on, give it gas, & smile
Cool. BTW: your Idiocracy quote is wrong: its not scrow, its scrot. As in .
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:50 AM   #4
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drz 400. she's a tank compared to my other thumpers and keeps on going.
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The DRZs are the cheapest and lowest maintenance but at the expense of weight and power. Hondas are lighter and faster but more maintenance is required and you will have to convert it to supermoto duty which can be pricey. KTMs are good but are expensive. Huskys are good but not many shops work on them around here and parts are sometimes hard to come by. Aprilias are awesome but probably the most maintenance intensive of the bunch albeit the fastest and most awesomest...yeah that's a word. It's pretty much give and take with supermotos, but the hands down lowest maintenance one is the DRZ and the Kawi KLX, but the KLX is a 250.
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I'm not expecting to go win CMRA expert races on it so giving up some weight and speed is fine. Its just a short track toy for me.
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Cool. BTW: your Idiocracy quote is wrong: its not scrow, its scrot. As in .
your eagle eyes! ok ok... il change it i guess.

DRZ FTW!!!
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I'm not expecting to go win CMRA expert races on it so giving up some weight and speed is fine. Its just a short track toy for me.
Don't sell yourself short. You need to tap into your inner superstar. LOL.

The DRZ sounds like a good choice then.
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Don't sell yourself short. You need to tap into your inner superstar. LOL.
I've still got the RSVR for that....
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i was told the yam 450s are good cause of the 5 valve head just something i heard.
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Are any year models better than others?
If your still looking at the off-road "E" models, I believe pre 2006 had the better FCR pumper carbs

On road models all have the same mikuni carb i believe.

Also, just a fun fact... but the Kawasaki KLX 400 is a Suzuki DRZ... not a clone, but is an actual DRZ. you can actually tear one down far enough and find a Suzuki mfg. label.
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How will you use the bike most often? If you want miles of smiles with less maintenance look at some of the big bore factory supermoto bikes. KTM 625 and Husky 610SMR are both great bikes with less maintenance than their 450cc stablemates. I loved my KTM 525SMR, well worth the added maintenance. This bike pulled like a freight train and handled highway speeds well, wish I still owned it!!!!
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How will you use the bike most often? If you want miles of smiles with less maintenance look at some of the big bore factory supermoto bikes. KTM 625 and Husky 610SMR are both great bikes with less maintenance than their 450cc stablemates. I loved my KTM 525SMR, well worth the added maintenance. This bike pulled like a freight train and handled highway speeds well, wish I still owned it!!!!
+1 I have a 426 street legal tard and a DR650 (not tarded but similar) and while the 426 is big fun, the big 650 is much better suited on the highway. I'd like more power but I've grown quite fond of the DR.

I picked up the 426 for track days but I'm not very consistent on it so I hesitate to go. If I don't get it on the track soon then I will probably look to trade up for a big bore supermoto for more street use.
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The bike will mainly be used at GSS and similar sized tracks. I'd like it to be street legal so I can get into some neighborhood jackassery, but it really doesn't need to be able to commute or do freeway speeds.
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+1 on the big bore bikes. Still capable on the track and they aren't wound out at freeway speeds. My Husky 510 cruises at 75-80 pretty easily at about 5,000 in 6th gear. Redline isn't until 10,000 so it's not too buzzy. The 610s are even easier at highway speeds but they are not as radical as the 510s and 450s. The 510 and 450 will wheelie off the throttle in 3rd if you want it to and I think the 450 comes with a slipper clutch. I've only had it on the street for a month and I've never been able to comfortably loft the front when exiting corners but I can do it easily and sometimes accidentally on this bike. The torque hits hard and makes the extra maintenance well worth it. It is hands down the most fun I've had on two wheels. The KTM 690s are also really low maintenance too. It's basically a street engine so the intervals are more like a regular street bike. They are expensive though because used ones are hard to find and they just came out not too long ago. Whatever you pick, I'm sure you'll like it. After owning one for only a month I can't see why anyone wouldn't want one in the stable.
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The bike will mainly be used at GSS and similar sized tracks. I'd like it to be street legal so I can get into some neighborhood jackassery, but it really doesn't need to be able to commute or do freeway speeds.
If that's the case, you should really consider a KTM factory SMR in 450 or 525cc configuration or a Husqvarna factory SMR in 450 or 510cc config. Fire breathing factory bikes with street capabilities right off the showroom floor!!!
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If that's the case, you should really consider a KTM factory SMR in 450 or 525cc configuration or a Husqvarna factory SMR in 450 or 510cc config. Fire breathing factory bikes with street capabilities right off the showroom floor!!!
I have to imagine getting parts for a husky has got to be a PITA. , I can't think of a single dealer off the top of my head that carries them!
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