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Old 11-02-2010, 09:33 PM   #41
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I started off with a 650r over a year ago and still enjoy it today - currently tracking it. As a heavier rider, a 250r wouldn't suffice on the freeways IMO and I have been caught in many situations (almost daily) where passing power is needed. Maintenance of both 250r and 650r are about the same but realize the 250r is carburated and that was a major drawback for me personally. I don't want to deal with the extra of carburators, especially if the bike sits for a while. My 650r has 20,500 reliable miles on it - the only maintenance required were oil changes every $5k miles (did one today - $20~ with OEM stuff), chain cleaned/lubed every 500 miles, adjusted every 7500 miles and changed every 15,000 miles (about $150~), an air filter and spark plugs every 15,000 miles ($170~ OEM) and tires...rear every 7000 miles and front every 12,000 miles or so ($130 each). I enjoy about 50mpg and am not riding around town like I am in a fetal position. It's a very comfortable bike but there are differences between a 250r and a 650r besides the power. As mentioned before, fuel injection vs carburator, but there is also handle bar height position (650r is way more upright), aftermarket (650r is limited but has enough stuff to enjoy), etc. The 650r is a great commuter bike which you can enjoy well past your "learning" phase...I intend on keeping mine for a very long time to enjoy. I have ridden to Austin, Cresson and other long distances very comfortably, and I ride everyday about 150+ miles for fun whenever I am in town. I have even ridden it twice to a trackday lol

If your funds are limited, definently used. Also as Staton mentioned, Trini's 500r is a great compromise and is an excellent, well cared for bike. Unlike others though, if you can afford it, I would say buy NEW...you don't want bike problems on your first bike imo.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:57 PM   #42
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IMO, unless bike is primary transportation.

Buy used
Buy dirt cheap
Beat it up; Throw it around
Learn to work on it
Get familiar with your local mechanic
Get your hands dirty
And don't feel bad, because it was dirt cheap

I honestly don't know at what point in time, people who started riding thought they needed to jump on a 600+ bike or where it become neccesary to have "tons of passing power". I hate to say stuff that makes me feel old, but back in the day a 750 barely had 60 hp and weighed a ton more than a 250 nowadays. I imagine it barely won off the line or in a passing scenario as well, but those were great bikes for the road! So I mean, I appreciate everyones opinions, but those are mine above.
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My vote is still for a SV650, S or N.. pick your poison.
Doesn't have a goofy bench seat which I HATE on bikes.
Aftermarket is huge, PLUS you can upgrade with gixxer parts if you so choose.
Dave C. doesn't ride one.
Your will attain extra girth. (true story)
Its not a Kawasaki
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My vote is still for a SV650, S or N.. pick your poison.
Doesn't have a goofy bench seat which I HATE on bikes.
Aftermarket is huge, PLUS you can upgrade with gixxer parts if you so choose.
Dave C. doesn't ride one.
Your will attain extra girth. (true story)
Its not a Kawasaki

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IMO, unless bike is primary transportation.
This. It's gonna be my daily driver.

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How is this possible?
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:06 PM   #48
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Alright guys and girls, a little update for you...

First, please understand that I'm a young, teenage boy. I take great joy in stretching myself and making dumb decisions, at times. That being said... I'm buying a new 2009 from Team Mancuso Powersports. They have 3 left over still on the sales floor My question to all of you is... How much should I be paying for it?

Mind, it's brand new... But it's an '09, and the 2011 models are already out. The original MSRP on them was $6,799 when they were the newest model year, so... I should get it for significantly less than that, right? I've heard of people getting good deals because the dealerships don't like hanging on to older model year bikes.

How low do y'all think I can get the dealership to go on this thing?

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$5500-6000 out the door

Don't limit yourself to that one dealership though. There are other motorcycle dealers that are more willing to work with you and your budget in this economy For whatever it's worth, I paid $6800 OTD for mine a year ago.
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Who else is around? I know of Team Moto Extreme, but they're waaaaay the up there in Tomball. o.o
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:55 PM   #52
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That's about an hour and a half from my house. o.O

If the deal is good, though...
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A bike can be totalled out by dropping it through the eyes of an insurance company. Are you prepared to spend that much on a bike?

New(ish) bikes are pretty until they are dropped; then its just a story for everyone to go "ewh...", 35 more payments, additional parts and the feeling in your gut the bike wont ever be the same. Worst case scenerio, it gets stolen and you're at a total loss(keep insurance on it.)

Just something to consider.
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