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Old 10-28-2010, 06:26 PM   #1
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I know this is a noob question, but I only recently heard about speed limiters on bikes, and was wondering, what's the point? If a SS can already go 160+ what's a little more speed gonna hurt? Do all bikes have them? If so, how do i get rid of mine?
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:28 PM   #2
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:19 PM   #3
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Is that the only reason? The gov't disapproves of a lot of things I do If there's something on my bike limiting it's capabilities, I want it gone.
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If there's something on my bike limiting it's capabilities, I want it gone.
Might want to remove the Triumph stickers then.

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Might want to let someone else ride it then.
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:23 PM   #5
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you just went there
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Old 10-28-2010, 07:25 PM   #6
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i THINK in 2001 they limited all the bikes to top speed of 300kmh (~186mph). Would really like to know the reasoning as well though.
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From what I understand, it was agreement between manufacturers to keep the government from stepping in and making the decision for them.
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I know this is a noob question, but I only recently heard about speed limiters on bikes, and was wondering, what's the point? If a SS can already go 160+ what's a little more speed gonna hurt? Do all bikes have them? If so, how do i get rid of mine?

do you often ride that fast where you would really require a removal of the limiter?
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do you often ride that fast where you would really require a removal of the limiter?
Better question... Will the bike even hit the limiter? unless its sprocketed i dont see it hitting an indicated 186 mph, but Ive been wrong before. Not to thread jack but is the only thing the limiter does is limit top speed?
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do you often ride that fast where you would really require a removal of the limiter?
I have topped the bike out a few times, and my bike won't do 186 anyway, but I was wondering if that limiter affects anything else. And if my bike isn't capable of going faster than 186 stock, would it even have the limiter?
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Usually manufactures set the speed limits on their vehicles based on the tires that come on the vehicle. It just so happens that the max speed rating of Y is 186mph. Coincidence? I think not.
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It was an agreement between Kawasaki and Suzuki when the Busa and Blackbird were battling the ZX-11 for top speed honors if memory serves me correctly. So the new ZX-12 came with a limiter and the Busa followed suit. The first year Busa did not have the limiter I believe. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
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99-2000 busas were not speed limited iirc
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I believe they used the tires as an excuse. There are only a few that will hit it anyway.
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European goverments were reportedly threatening the manufacturers with legislation and/or import bans about 10 years ago. The US government wasn't part of the picture, though Danforth from Missouri was working up somewhat similar legislation to regulate max HP and performance levels on US bikes around the same time. The speed comes from a manufacturer's agreement to keep it under 300KPH. 299 KPH is basically 186MPH. The US bikes got it by default, probably also to discourage gray market mods to EU bikes as well as trying not to draw any similar attention and possible legislation here. If all of the manufacturers agreed to one top speed, the "war" would not continue its escallation and subsequent attention of EU legislators.
Sorry if any typos. On a crackberry in a cab in Hamburg with a driver that makes the Duke boys look like they're Amish. Wish me luck.
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Might want to remove the Triumph stickers then.

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It was an agreement between Kawasaki and Suzuki when the Busa and Blackbird were battling the ZX-11 for top speed honors if memory serves me correctly. So the new ZX-12 came with a limiter and the Busa followed suit. The first year Busa did not have the limiter I believe. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...
Close, but it was between the ZX-12R and Busa. The 2000 ZX12 isn't limited.


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European goverments were reportedly threatening the manufacturers with legislation and/or import bans about 10 years ago. The US government wasn't part of the picture, though Danforth from Missouri was working up somewhat similar legislation to regulate max HP and performance levels on US bikes around the same time. The speed comes from a manufacturer's agreement to keep it under 300KPH. 299 KPH is basically 186MPH. The US bikes got it by default, probably also to discourage gray market mods to EU bikes as well as trying not to draw any similar attention and possible legislation here. If all of the manufacturers agreed to one top speed, the "war" would not continue its escallation and subsequent attention of EU legislators.
Sorry if any typos. On a crackberry in a cab in Hamburg with a driver that makes the Duke boys look like they're Amish. Wish me luck.
Same story I heard.
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My bike hit 168...not a mile per hour faster. couldve tried to down it to fifth, but didnt wanna get launched/thrown/front wheel wiggle. At that speed I was already in a state of HOLY THIS IS AWESOME. but you still have the little angel on your shoulder going... but then your like...
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