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Old 10-28-2010, 08:26 AM   #41
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Ya that pretty much tells the story. BMW has the HP but not the torque.
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Looks like apples to me
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Im surprised no one has brought up the new Zx-10..................
because its ugly
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There is an allowable 7-15% correction on the speedometer to actual speed for motorcycles. That means even if your speedo shows you going 200mph you could be significantly off. Changing a tire from a 55 to a 50 will make a considerable difference too FYI.

If your bike doesnt have a Timing Retarder, it either wasnt sold for the US market or will not break actual 187 mph, top speed, Im sorry.

Power to weight is one of the most honest bike comparisons. Dont forget torque either. Many inexperienced riders will be first to point out their zx/busa/hawk smokes everything on the street but keep in mind most street drag racers have little experience and the lighter weight, more powerful 1000's will wheelie alot quicker then forward-heavy, longer wheel-based bikes. Same point goes for the fact that most 600s driven by inexperienced drag racers will always jump on larger bikes off the line since the power is more easily manageable.

Go to the track and see just how well your launches are and prepare to be humbled. Drag racing is an art, one that I admittedly dont have the knack.

Anyone that has had a bike capable riding at those speeds and has will be first to point out that its not very impressive above 180. These bikes are all pretty much maxed out at that time and dont pull hard at all. Unless you're running the Texas Mile I really doubt any observer would know the difference; but Ive met many 600 owners that apparently ride at 180mph... Now they dont have their bike anymore due to some elaborate story etc etc, but I believe them just as I believe most busa/zx riders continuously ride at the speeds they say they do w sloppy rusted chains, chrome for wind resistance reduction, etc etc.
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My sppedo shows topped out all the time. That's -1+2 gearing for ya. I have not topped it since the healer was put on.
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I pinned the ZX14 on hardy toll road, but stock as it is wont approach the rev limiter in 6th gear, its got enough power for maybe 9400ish RPMs
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Which ironically is the speed limiter according to napkin math. So she'll do every bit of 186 stock, lol.
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Which ironically is the speed limiter according to napkin math. So she'll do every bit of 186 stock, lol.
Thats why the Busa has a 50 shot.
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because its ugly
Everyone says every new bike is ugly. I remember when the 08 1000RR was first shown, just about everyone hated it. Now no one cares since it performs.
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.THIS IS THE CLASS THAT BMW IS RUNNING IN


APPLE'S TO APPLE'S


SUPERSPORT Qualifying
Pos Bike# Rider Hometown Bike ET MPH
1 2949 JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 09 KAW ZX-14 8.947 151.82
2 1762 RICHARD GADSON PHILADELPHIA PA 06 SUZ GSXR 8.986 157.65
3 218 CHIP ELLIS PLAINS GA 09 SUZ GSXR 8.991 158.97
4 200 TONY FERLAND SPRINGVALE ME 09 KAW ZX14 9.034 155.96
5 1550 JOEY GLADSTONE TOWNSEND DE 07 SUZ GSXR 9.046 152.66
6 1826 DANNY PAYTON ELIZABETH TOWN KY 08 SUZ GSXR 9.111 160.81
7 2263 JOHN FERNANDEZ TAMPA FL 08 KAW ZX14 9.167 151.04
8 1980 DOMONIC ANDERSON RICHMOND VA 10 BMW S1000 9.811 155.69


Look like a zx14 would clean the clocks off a BMW

A 9.8 DON'T BEAT A 8.9
turns out that domonic anderson isnt used to riding short bikes:

http://www.bmwbmw.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=15912

but it doesnt matter, jeremy teasley went 8.95 on a brocks supersport prepped S1000rr, so its up there with the big dogs anyway
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Teasley is a bad
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Teasley is a bad
i second that, i wish i had his skills
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i second that, i wish i had his skills
I would be happy with 10%
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from the march texas mile results. an 07 and 08 no power adders, neither broke 200 even once. i don't know if either had exhaust or TRe or not though

Motorcycle F 1250cc+ ‐ No Power Adder 2008 Suzuki GSX1300R Ha 20 184.7 188.9 188.1 188.5 188.2 189.7 194.7 191.6 188.6 188.5 120.5

Jenny Bayles Motorcycle Motorcycle F 1250cc+ ‐ No Power Adder 2007 Suzuki Hayabusa 181 149.2 153.7 160.6 157.6 174 176.8 176.2 181.8 181.7 184.4 188
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Chip Ellis aint too bad either.
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Point being the busa and zx14 are build for top speed with confidence handling hp and tq ratio is almost perfect stock this two bike with a rider like me 140lb will unrestricted will run over the 200mph were the new light weight BMW redlined motor speeds of 190 real speed . I get lots of people on 600 tell me I did 180 on my bike never 180 is 165 on a stock 600 cc bike now the 636 and daytona 675 ran 171 mph gps real speed with pro riders
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Never heard of a stock 636 running over 170. Ones with engines in good shape usually run up to the mid 160's. I've had mine reading 189 twice. Don't know the actual mph though.
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from the march texas mile results. an 07 and 08 no power adders, neither broke 200 even once. i don't know if either had exhaust or TRe or not though

Motorcycle F 1250cc+ ‐ No Power Adder 2008 Suzuki GSX1300R Ha 20 184.7 188.9 188.1 188.5 188.2 189.7 194.7 191.6 188.6 188.5 120.5

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The 08 has about 20+ more hp than the 07 Gen 1. Josh's bike is a good expamle of what a few mods can do in the standing mile
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Never heard of a stock 636 running over 170. Ones with engines in good shape usually run up to the mid 160's. I've had mine reading 189 twice. Don't know the actual mph though.
My point exact gps speeds on a 600cc bike is between 160-171 for the new bikes 1000cc 175-189 and busa and zx14 186-200 unrestricted think about it why restrict a bike if they can only do 186
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The 08 has about 20+ more hp than the 07 Gen 1. Josh's bike is a good expamle of what a few mods can do in the standing mile
yeah, that additional 20 hp was good for about another 5 mph in the mile. look at the bikes that are running right at 200, i bet they are putting down about 210-220hp
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