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Old 08-02-2006, 05:45 PM   #1
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affirmitive action

I'm really divided on this issue as far as school and jobs go. thi is the way i figure.

If you're going to give someone that's a minority a job or a place in a university over someone white or more well off that person at least have that person matched against them 1 for 1. it's like people hollering racial profileing and saying they shouldn't have got pulled over, but their tags were expired or they had a car that was smoking to high or playing their music really loud. i figure minorities or inner city kids should have thier ducks in a row before they ask to be let in over someone.

People can say what they want to say but i know for a fact alot of good 'ole boy goes down in letting kids attend universities. mom and dad went there so the child that maybe didn't match all the way up gets in just because.

I'm saying if there are two children 4.0 gpa and etc. i think the one that is not as well off be them black or white should get in over the child that is more well off.

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Old 08-02-2006, 05:49 PM   #2
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i agree, but it's like voting... my vote doesn't really matter
at least you can. :eh:
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So now that Houston is 60% latino can I get some hookups?
this is a real conversation. I'm hoping I came across the right way. I'm def not saying a person with lower grades should get in over a person wit hthe proper grades.
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i think affirmitive action bullsh!t. that came about from folks ( whatever their creed or nationality ) complaining that the government needs to help them because they cant help themselves. im sick of it. its gotten so horrible. not trying to sound racist, but its getting to the point where honest hard working white folks are having trouble getting jobs, because workplaces have to fill their minority quota. i dont care if your black, white, asian, indian, whatever.... the best PERSON for the job should get it.
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i think affirmitive action bullsh!t. that came about from folks ( whatever their creed or nationality ) complaining that the government needs to help them because they cant help themselves. im sick of it. its gotten so horrible. not trying to sound racist, but its getting to the point where honest hard working white folks are having trouble getting jobs, because workplaces have to fill their minority quota. i dont care if your black, white, asian, indian, whatever.... the best PERSON for the job should get it.
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i think affirmitive action bullsh!t. that came about from folks ( whatever their creed or nationality ) complaining that the government needs to help them because they cant help themselves. im sick of it. its gotten so horrible. not trying to sound racist, but its getting to the point where honest hard working white folks are having trouble getting jobs, because workplaces have to fill their minority quota. i dont care if your black, white, asian, indian, whatever.... the best PERSON for the job should get it.
do you not agree that there's some good 'ole boy that goes on behind closed doors??? be it blacks hiring a person cause they are black or whites hiring because the person is white??? if you say it doesn't go on then you're fooling yourself.
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i think affirmitive action bullsh!t. that came about from folks ( whatever their creed or nationality ) complaining that the government needs to help them because they cant help themselves. im sick of it. its gotten so horrible. not trying to sound racist, but its getting to the point where honest hard working white folks are having trouble getting jobs, because workplaces have to fill their minority quota. i dont care if your black, white, asian, indian, whatever.... the best PERSON for the job should get it.
i hear white people say that all the time but really when have you ever not got a job caus eyou're white. cmon spill it. I bet it has never happened to you.
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i'm jsut saying i think it's good to have the U.S demo shown in the workplace.
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i hear white people say that all the time but really when have you ever not got a job caus eyou're white. cmon spill it. I bet it has never happened to you.
it hasnt happened to me yet, but it has happened to 1 of my buddies twice, once at the texas city fire dept. and at baytown.

both cases it was a woman, one white, one black, niether of them could pass the physical agility test, but still got the job due to minority quotas.

an i know its not just race, as stated, its also that can affect affirmitive action.


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do you not agree that there's some good 'ole boy that goes on behind closed doors??? be it blacks hiring a person cause they are black or whites hiring because the person is white??? if you say it doesn't go on then you're fooling yourself.
i know it does happen, im not denying that, but there's no law against that, thats going to happen anywhere and everywhere. whats bullshit is when there is a law stating it has to be done.
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i think it's total bullshit. why should skin color/religion/ have anything to do with who gets what in this country? I realize there are ignorant fu(ks everywhere that look at someone's skin color and judge them by it, but this AA has grown out of control. Since i am now the minority in the Houston area, do i get a break for being caucasion? hells no. the more qualified person should get the job regardless of skin color/religion/.
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it hasnt happened to me yet, but it has happened to 1 of my buddies twice, once at the texas city fire dept. and at baytown.

both cases it was a woman, one white, one black, niether of them could pass the physical agility test, but still got the job due to minority quotas.

an i know its not just race, as stated, its also that can affect affirmitive action.




i know it does happen, im not denying that, but there's no law against that, thats going to happen anywhere and everywhere. whats bullshit is when there is a law stating it has to be done.
what did i say if they are both on par then the person should get it. if you don't pass the test then you shouldn't get it over the other person. it's a cache 22 situation it sucks it shouldn't have to be a law BUT do you really think white or black business owners would hire other races if they didn't.
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i think it's total bullshit. why should skin color/religion/ have anything to do with who gets what in this country? I realize there are ignorant fu(ks everywhere that look at someone's skin color and judge them by it, but this AA has grown out of control. Since i am now the minority in the Houston area, do i get a break for being caucasion? hells no. the more qualified person should get the job regardless of skin color/religion/.
I feel the same way but do you honestly tha'ts not the case.
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I feel the same way but do you honestly tha'ts not the case.
charles, read a few sentence up from what you highlighted in my quote. I understand there are bigots/rednecks/racist bastards out there. that's why we have the laws we do. i just think the laws should be updated since the "minorities" are now the "majority".
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charles, read a few sentence up from what you highlighted in my quote. I understand there are bigots/rednecks/racist bastards out there. that's why we have the laws we do. i just think the laws should be updated since the "minorities" are now the "majority".
I menat to say i feel the same was but honestly tha'ts not the case.
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charles, read a few sentence up from what you highlighted in my quote. I understand there are bigots/rednecks/racist bastards out there. that's why we have the laws we do. i just think the laws should be updated since the "minorities" are now the "majority".
but are there as many minorities in position to hire people??? Dude it's a ****ed system I don't like this law but if someone has a better idea rather than " jsut let the people decide" then let me know.
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I think it's BS. Race shouldn't be a deciding factor in anything - jobs, school admissions, etc.

We do have laws that keep someone from being denied a job based on race, , creed, etc. The government shouldn't create laws forcing a business to hire X people of X background. Spend more time enforcing law #1 and you won't need law #2.

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I think it's BS. Race shouldn't be a deciding factor in anything - jobs, school admissions, etc.
you're right it shouldn't but how sure are you that people really think like you. what if you went in for a sjob and the hiring person was black and picked someone black over you just because they wer eblack you'd be right???
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