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Old 10-26-2010, 07:27 AM   #21
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You are correct, they want to practice before taking the MSF.
I never practiced before hand and passed, it's possible to pass the course. U practice before the day of the test. Hence 3 day course
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:33 AM   #22
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just tell them take the course. thats what its there for. teaches you all the basics, step by step. if they fail, they shouldnt be anywhere near a bike
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:47 AM   #23
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:02 AM   #24
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If you fail the MSF course, you probably won't ever get the hang of it.
The instructors walk you through every step of learning how to ride, so it's pretty straightforward.

I lent my bike to a friend last x-mas while I was out of town, he totaled it the day I got back :( Don't lend your bike to people!
Same thing happened to me.

I never rode at all before taking MSF. You don't need the practice.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:11 AM   #25
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They feel that with a bit of practice before hand, they will have a leg up.

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I don't think it's a bad idea to practice before taking the MSF because the more practice, the better, but it's probably not ultimately necessary.
Just FYI, we usually have to spend more time with people that "practiced" before class trying to fix their issues than we do with people that never touched a bike.

I've also seen several instances where people wrecked while they were practicing, then, when they get to class, they can't shake the fear of falling and end up having issues.

Personal opinion (based on 8 years of full time teaching), but I REALLY think it's better to send them to class empty minded. Those students seem to do the best. Just my .02 though.

Sorry for the threadjack, but I think it's important.
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My wife took the class with zero riding experience and she did better than most of the other people.

Thats what they have those 250s there for.
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haha wow, didn't expect that many answers. Well that's what I told them, but they are so stuck on the fact that they might lose ~$250.

I'll try to convince them again that they should go straight to the class, and if not, I've already gotten a couple of PMS. Just know that this isn't a onesided thing, they're willing to pay 30 bucks or so a pop for some seat time in the parking lot.

Thanks again everyone!

(Oh, and I took the class without any practice too and.. well.. I passed =)
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haha wow, didn't expect that many answers. Well that's what I told them, but they are so stuck on the fact that they might lose ~$250.

I'll try to convince them again that they should go straight to the class, and if not, I've already gotten a couple of PMS. Just know that this isn't a onesided thing, they're willing to pay 30 bucks or so a pop for some seat time in the parking lot.

Thanks again everyone!

(Oh, and I took the class without any practice too and.. well.. I passed =)

dude, with the course you spend 2 full days RIDING and you test on the same maneuvers you've been doing for TWO DAYS... It'll be ok.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:59 PM   #33
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I try to teach clutch and shifting on a 4 wheeler, then move on to balance on a dirt bike. Never took MSF, so I have no comment about that.
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:00 PM   #34
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haha wow, didn't expect that many answers. Well that's what I told them, but they are so stuck on the fact that they might lose ~$250.

I'll try to convince them again that they should go straight to the class, and if not, I've already gotten a couple of PMS. Just know that this isn't a onesided thing, they're willing to pay 30 bucks or so a pop for some seat time in the parking lot.

Thanks again everyone!

(Oh, and I took the class without any practice too and.. well.. I passed =)
We just don't wAnt to see your friend making the news . You should just tell them to take the class it's good you trying to help but here is what's going to happen tgey get the hang of it in a parking lot grow ball diss out money on a 600 cc bike or bigger and end up never taking a class and ends up crashing hurting or killing someone or them self . When people ask me is it hard to ride I tell then it's not for everyone take the class and see it will be the best $250 ever it may be a life saving investment IMO
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:17 PM   #36
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haha wow, didn't expect that many answers. Well that's what I told them, but they are so stuck on the fact that they might lose ~$250.

I'll try to convince them again that they should go straight to the class, and if not, I've already gotten a couple of PMS. Just know that this isn't a onesided thing, they're willing to pay 30 bucks or so a pop for some seat time in the parking lot.

Thanks again everyone!

(Oh, and I took the class without any practice too and.. well.. I passed =)

If they cant live with a 250.00 loss they have no business near bikes. No business buying or riding. Sounds like they are pretty sure they are likely to eat . Also sounds like they wanna eat it for less than 250.00.
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