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Old 10-25-2010, 01:11 AM   #1
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Ignition won't turn off

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I went out for a ride one day and when I came home and tried to turn off the bike, the key wouldn't go into the off position. I've owned the bike since new so I know how to turn it off. To turn it off I have to put it in "park" then disconnect the battery so it won't run out. Not fun at all. Anybody ever had this problem before? Could it just be a worn out key? I'd rather replace that than the whole ignition. It has been wrecked before, and the key was bent afterwards, but that was a few years ago it's been fine until now.

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spray some wd40 in it let it soak. press down and turn. tun on turn off turn on off keep wiggling it.... some times they act up
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^^^ What he said I had that same issue on a ride with Jerzey got home sprayed some wd 40 in there havnt had the issue since.
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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.
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spray some wd40 in it let it soak. press down and turn. tun on turn off turn on off keep wiggling it.... some times they act up
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^^^ What he said I had that same issue on a ride with Jerzey got home sprayed some wd 40 in there havnt had the issue since.
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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.


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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.
powdered graphite is the ! Yeah, definately don't use WD-40. I learned the hard way a while ago with that stuff.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:20 AM   #7
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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.
good note for the future

after I sprayed a little wd40 in there a bunch of black grime would seep out and coat the key for a few days but after that I had no more issues I guess whatever was in there got cleaned out
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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.
words of the wise!!!!!!

wd 40 will cake up in there and cause more problems down the road.... it will work for a short time but its not the right way to do it.

get some powered graphite and first use air to blow out the lock cycl since you got wd 40 in it now and then use the graphite.
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:38 PM   #10
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Do NOT put WD40 in your ignition, it can cause issues.

The 636's were notorious for bad tumblers in the switch.
Try turning the key to the right first and then quickly turn it to the off position.
You may have to do this several times. Be careful not to use a lot of force. After you get it out you can use a bit of powered graphite to help lube the tumblers. You can pick some up at any locksmith shop.
If it gets to bad you may wind up needing to replace the switch.
I was curious just how much of the WD40 would be soaked up by the metals in the ignition switch.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:49 PM   #11
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I was curious just how much of the WD40 would be soaked up by the metals in the ignition switch.
No one said anything about being "soaked up".

What does happen is the WD mixes with the dirt/trash/debris and becomes a paste and then hardens. I've also seen it run down into the switch contacts below it and cause issues there. I've probably seen an easy dozen switches have issues because of WD in the last 10 years or so.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:01 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the help I'll try it out and get back to you. Yeah it has a "park", which locks the handlebars and leaves the brake and turn signal lights lit.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:19 PM   #13
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powdered graphite is the ! Yeah, definately don't use WD-40. I learned the hard way a while ago with that stuff.
This is what I've been told all my life for old locks with keys.


But no kill switch on the bike? Hope you get the issure resolved quickly!
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my friend had the same problem on his zzr. must be a kawi thing? ill let him know bout the powdered graphite
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[QUOTE=Patrick;2692571]No one said anything about being "soaked up".

Uh, maybe you missed post #2. I am also curious as to how much WD40 will soak into the metal.
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Uh, maybe you missed post #2. I am also curious as to how much WD40 will soak into the metal.
I did.
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Thanks for all the help I'll try it out and get back to you. Yeah it has a "park", which locks the handlebars and leaves the brake and turn signal lights lit.
the bottom portion of you ignition is made out of plastic. Over time the actual switch that is turned when you turn the key at the bottom becomes worn. The tab the turns this part doesn't turn this switch anymore. If you do decide to go this route and you see that this is the problem, there are a bunch of temporary fixes you can do. If you end up needing a new lower, I probably have some that you might be able to use. I hope you solve your problem.
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Patrick how about teflon spray? My ignition is a bit sticky and that's all I have handy.
errr some googling answered that for me.
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you can also use electronic tuner spray which I have found at Radio Shack,
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Listen to Motorcycles Unlimited---they know their stuff. I had a buddy who sprayed some gasoline in his ignition switch to "make it work better". He put the key in, took it out, put it, etc, and then the idiot turned the key to "on". You guessed it---the switch blew to pieces. No one was hurt but my buddy's wallet went flat almost immediately. They ride and they vote.
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