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Old 07-31-2006, 08:01 AM   #1
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NEED HELP ASAP STUCK BOLT

anyone know a good shop i can take my camshafts to so i can remove the cam gears?? there stuck NEED this done ASAP!!

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Old 07-31-2006, 08:42 AM   #3
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We can remove them tomorrow when we reopen. Just out of curiosity, why are you removing them?
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:05 AM   #4
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there cams from my car... swaped b16's out for GSR's
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:13 AM   #5
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If it's car stuff I don't really know who to recommend.
I typically use West Pearland Goodyear for most of my stuff, even though they're all the way over on the other side of the world, or 4 wheel parts for some of my Jeep stuff that I don't have time to do myself. Sorry I'm not much help.
If it's just a cam bolt that you're going to replace, we can probably get it out for you.
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Old 07-31-2006, 09:17 AM   #6
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you guys cant do it... its just a bolt nothin special... i just dont know anymore tricks... tired heat, wd40, breaker bar... nothin seems to work, figured a good shop whould know what to do...
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hi, from a machinist stand point you can take the drill size just under the thread valley and drill the center of the screw out, if done properly you will have weakened the screw and it will turn out with a screw extractor, if you would like more details i can give them, good luck
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impact wrench ftw!
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hi, from a machinist stand point you can take the drill size just under the thread valley and drill the center of the screw out, if done properly you will have weakened the screw and it will turn out with a screw extractor, if you would like more details i can give them, good luck
never done that before dont wanna **** anything up... give you $20 if you do it for me...

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it already lost
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more air pressure + torch

on the other hand...if all you want is the gear, you might be able to simply grind off the head of the bolt, and pull the gear off.
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more air pressure + torch

on the other hand...if all you want is the gear, you might be able to simply grind off the head of the bolt, and pull the gear off.
tried the torch to...

its not just that simple to grind off the head of the bolt... the bottom of the bolt is like set inside the camgear...either way its gotta come off the same way it went on
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hum...pics. i have a couple other crazy ideas.
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hum...pics. i have a couple other crazy ideas.
hold up a sec.. pics in 10 min
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How much heat?
Is the head rounded off?
If not, and you can wait till tomorrow, I'll get it out for you.
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How much heat?
Is the head rounded off?
If not, and you can wait till tomorrow, I'll get it out for you.
im not sure HOW MUCH heat... heated it with a hand held propaine torch
heads are not rounded off
yea i can wait till tommrow..
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this is the cam gear screw right, can you turn the cam gear so the screw will be in as much open area as possible...i cant goto humble but i will detail the steps to drill the screw out, any screw.

first try to find the center of the screw, if the head is sheared off file or grind a flat surface, next get a center punch and hammer a center point ( in your case you dont want to damage the cam gear, if its after market its prolly aluminum and that bents easily so "LIGHTY" tap a center point on the exposed side of the screw) next take 9/32 or smaller and drill the center out, next get the drill size that is under the thread valley (err on the safe side get a smaller one first) and drill again be careful not to drill at an angle or you could damage the threads, when you have drilled the center out sufficiantly, get you screw extractor ( the kind with the counter rotating flutes not the square the flutes), lightly tap it in place and apply counterclock wise force with a wrench, it should turn if you weakened it enough, if not try drilling again ( make sure the drill size you get is smaller compare it to the other cam gear screws to make sure, if you dont see the valley of the thread when you compare them get a smaller drill), if the screw still doesnt turn lightly tap the exposed screw to jar it loose but in you case aluminum and steel screws should not be rust frozen, do not ally heat as the expantion rate for metals are close and two metals touching will transfer the heat and get you no where, last ditch get a dremel (dont laugh i use them alot cuz they are easier for fine grinding than a die grinder) and grind the last bits of the screw being careful of the female threads of the cam gear

if you got any more questions pm or post them, i think i covered most of them
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yea i'll think i'll take em to Motorcycles Unlimited tommrow... thanks for all the advice tho...
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im not sure HOW MUCH heat... heated it with a hand held propaine torch
heads are not rounded off
yea i can wait till tommrow..
IMO,,,,,,,try not to use much heat, these metals have a specific hardness and heating them will anneal the metal making them softer, think biker build off when the guy was making a tank, he used sheet metal but he heated it up first then it became more malleable so he didnt have to work so hard to shape it with the bag and hammer
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what part were you heating?? you'll want to warm the cam from the backside of the gear, not the bolt. you definately could grind that head off. but you could wait till tomorrow if you don't want to scrap the cam or risk it. any small machine shop should be able to get that out.
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