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Old 07-27-2006, 12:43 PM   #1
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Moto GP V SBK???

Alright guys I know almost everybody here will be a massive Moto GP fan and would pick it over any other class BUT who here watches the World Superbike Championship?

Here is what I know:
SBK are 1000cc bikes
Moto GP are 800cc bikes

and what I want to know:

Why is Moto GP cosidered the Formula 1 of bikes when SBK has the bigger bikes? Is the difference that SBK bikes must be consumer purchasable? And what class is faster. Just from my analysis (all be it not a professional one) I do watch both and love both (bikes are bikes and when racing it's even better) BUT....SBK always seems to have tighter and better races with more lead changes than Moto GP. Is this a fair analysis?

To me SBK is closer to the real thing therefore I can relate to it better BUT if one of you GP guru's can enlighten me on the race specs/guidlines I would enjoy it even more!

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motogp uses technology that isn't available on the market
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moto gp's are 1 off bikes, not that WSB is off the shelf. but they are alot closer to production then GP bikes. WSB is usually the cast-off riders from GP.
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moto gp's are 1 off bikes, not that WSB is off the shelf. but they are alot closer to production then GP bikes. WSB is usually the cast-off riders from GP.

SO what regulates the bikes, I mean is there a limit to mods???
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MotoGp is actually 990cc's this year 800cc's next year. They will still be faster and more powerful than superbikes because they are not limited to working with production machines. In fact if a GP bike has anything from a production bike they are ruled inelligible.....
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AND why are they 800cc??? This really confuses me as NO manufacturer really produces 800cc bikes for common sale.
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There are only wieight, fuel capacity, and engine capacity restrictions
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MotoGp is actually 990cc's this year 800cc's next year. They will still be faster and more powerful than superbikes because they are not limited to working with production machines. In fact if a GP bike has anything from a production bike they are ruled inelligible.....
OK now I am way off - why REDUCE the engine capacity? And agian to my above question why an engine capacity that nobody manufactures for street use
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THese bikes are not developed for sale only racing. Some of the advances they make trickle down to streetbikes but not the whole bike. With the exception of the Ducati Desmodici. Which is really a collectors item at $65000
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pretty much to slow them down. they were hitting close to 200mph in the straights..........

they are not meant to trickle down their technology that much to reg. street bikes. though they do to a certain extent. their secrets are pretty top secret, and i;ve heard they destroy all the bikes comes yr end.

btw,my bike is 800cc
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They are reducing capacity next year for "saftely reasons"
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thats kind of the point. motogp is changing the format so that factories will be encouraged to produce new models and new technology that will eventually be available to us on the street.

sbk bikes have to be based on regular models like we can buy from a showroom (gsxr, cbr, r1, etc...) and the mods they do are more or less mostly available to the public also, (though very VERY expensive)

think about it this way, sbk bikes might cost 50-100k to produce, motogp bikes cost more a million or more. BIG difference.

i like watching sbk for that reason too. if you do alot of mods to your bike, and do them the right way, your not far off from sbk caliber...(or at least you can pretend, lol) motogp...no way your ever getting to even sit on one. lol.
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They were as much as 15mph over 200 at mugello.....
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Well I appreciate the info guys - directing back to the original thread, your thoughts on SBK?
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. if you do alot of mods to your bike, and do them the right way, your not far off from sbk caliber...(or at least you can pretend, lol).
unforn. chance's are you'll never get near SBK levels, let alone supersport levels........nor AMA superbike/SS levels........at most the non-factory supported team levels.
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They were as much as 15mph over 200 at mugello.....
So right now Moto GP is hitting 215mph on a track??? What can an SBK bike hit??? Cant be far off it! Mind you straight line speed isn't the point at all! Scrap the question!
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Well that was the reason for the decrease anyway
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motogp bikes were ~2-3 seconds faster around laguna then AMA superbikes........

thats the diff. of $500,000 to $1mil+
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Go buy the DVD "Faster" it will answer most of your questions about MotoGp and it's a badass movie to boot....You can get it at CycleGear
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motogp bikes were ~2-3 seconds faster around laguna then AMA superbikes........

thats the diff. of $500,000 to $1mil+
you think that has anything to do with the AMA riders having more time at the track?
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