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Old 07-26-2006, 12:36 PM   #21
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it's easy to feel liek you have to place the blame on someone but i say alot of the blame should be with her husband for leaving the children in a woman with known mental issues in their care. and the doctors that treated her mental iissues for allowing her children to be kept in her care.

if a person would just open their minds a little they can see. sure we're all sane and since we see what we KNOW is right it's hard to understand a person having mental issues. i've known someone with mental issues and to this day 15 years later he's still locked up because he's a danger and the state knows it.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:36 PM   #22
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I won't even dignify that ignorant shyt with a response...
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:37 PM   #23
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I think she planned it all. I've heard of many parents being driven crazy by their children and not killing them. It goes with having children, even I have had my moments with my children but never would I kill or cause hurt. She should go to prison for life after all she took 5 of them.
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Hence, the reason they are there in the first place...
what you typed is what happened sounds like a crazy person doesn't it. now if she ran after she did it then i might go with she isn't crazy but she called and asked for a court date. c'mon.
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what being offered is not eye for an eye. withthat kind of thinking if you kill someones kid then they get to kill your kid. i mean sine tha'ts eye for an eye.
although i don't quite understand what you said, ill repeat myself since you missed it the first time. . .until the punishment fits the crime, people will continue to commit crimes due to lack of fear of the punishment. It's simple really. Stiffer punishments=less crime.
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i think the arguement is did she know what she was doing was wrong, and when you hear that she took her time, etc. it makes it hard to believe that she didn't know what she was doing. she's crazy, yeah, but i don't think "legally" she was insane at the time.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:41 PM   #27
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it's easy to feel liek you have to place the blame on someone but i say alot of the blame should be with her husband for leaving the children in a woman with known mental issues in their care. and the doctors that treated her mental iissues for allowing her children to be kept in her care.

if a person would just open their minds a little they can see. sure we're all sane and since we see what we KNOW is right it's hard to understand a person having mental issues. i've known someone with mental issues and to this day 15 years later he's still locked up because he's a danger and the state knows it.
I agree that both the husband and doctors share some fault but I feel that doer of deeds is the one who should suffer any punitive punishment...punishing those that simply share the blame would be like punishing the gun salesman that sales the crazy guy, with a clean record mind you, a gun who then uses said gun to murder a few dozen employees at work....
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She is insane, I'll give her that. But I still think she's mentally capable to face what she did.
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what you typed is what happened sounds like a crazy person doesn't it. now if she ran after she did it then i might go with she isn't crazy but she called and asked for a court date. c'mon.
OK...your not getting that fact that there alot of marginally crazy people out here in the free world...but in order to be released of any punishment in a court of law by reason of insanity means that you must meet a few requirements within that state authorities definition of insanity...
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The husband still should have had to share some of the blame............he'd sure go to jail for letting his kids play on the freeway but it's okay to leave them home with someone with known mental problems?
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Could someone on here define crazy for me..............
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The husband still should have had to share some of the blame............he'd sure go to jail for letting his kids play on the freeway but it's okay to leave them home with someone with known mental problems?
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Could someone on here define crazy for me..............
didn't know what she was doing was wrong
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Could someone on here define crazy for me..............
cra·zy adj. cra·zi·er, cra·zi·est
1. Affected with madness; insane.

in·san·i·ty (n-sn-t) n.-
1. Persistent mental disorder or derangement.
2. Unsoundness of mind sufficient in the judgment of a civil court to render a person unfit to maintain a contractual or other legal relationship or to warrant commitment to a mental health facility.
3. In most criminal jurisdictions, a degree of mental malfunctioning considered to be sufficient to relieve the accused of legal responsibility for the act committed.
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you sound so ****ing stupid. i would find it so crazy that a person calls the police after doing something so wrong and inquires about a cout date if that don't seem crazy to you then you're one stupid mother ****er.
I can't think of one serial killer who's actions don't sound crazy to me. I think the NOT GUILTY by reason of insanity defense is bullshit. At some point if doctors determine she's rehabilitated and a judge approves, she could be released back into society although she killed all her children. Do you want to tell me Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer weren't insane?
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I can't think of one serial killer who's actions don't sound crazy to me. I think the NOT GUILTY by reason of insanity defense is bullshit. At some point if doctors determine she's rehabilitated and a judge approves, she could be released back into society although she killed all her children. Do you want to tell me Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer weren't insane?
that's what i think most people don't understand she's not getting out. :eh: or atelast i wouldn't let her out.
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Its making me insane thinking about this!! But would you lock me up for it?
I dont think so. Would I kill my kids cause i am unstable like this?

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that's what i think most people don't understand she's not getting out. :eh: or atelast i wouldn't let her out.
...If history holds true, she will be released if at any point in time, she is deemed rehabilitated (vis a vis no longer insane) by her doctor.
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that's what i think most people don't understand she's not getting out. :eh: or atelast i wouldn't let her out.
The point is she will still be given the opportunity on our tax dollars to be released at some point. The fact is that she is GUILTY because we are not disputing whether she killed them or not.
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...If history holds true, she will be released if at any point in time, she is deemed rehabilitated (vis a vis no longer insane) by her doctor.
And how will she be 'rehabilitated'? When they determine that she probably won't kill any more of her own children.

It's a f***ed up system.
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