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Old 09-25-2010, 10:06 PM   #1
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question for all you knee draggers...

so I wanted to work on my bp, and thought I'd go ride in circles in a parking lot. In first gear circle after circle making small adjustments maintaining the same speed and slowly tightening the circle until I was low enough my knee was sliding as I kept doing circles. What advice can you guys offer for me to keep improving, and is doing this actually helping me? I would think so since I've never had my that low turning so tight, but you tell me
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:18 PM   #2
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Knee dragging shouldn't be a goal.
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1st gear knee dragging in a parking lot ( im assuming ) is nowhere near dragging at 75 around a hairpin.



........ im guessing as i have never been anywhere near a trackday...........

but technique of looking through the corner and not target fixating, entry and exit points should be the goal.





( im probably wrong, just ASSuming ^^ )
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I know it's not the goal, my goal in doing that was to tighten my turning and get more comfortable leaning the bike over. I was working on not twisting my body to do so, and after a while I was maintaining about 40mph but able to do it in a much smaller circle, and could really tell a difference when I focused on looking through the turn and keeping my weight off the bars. I know it's nothing like a hairpin at highspeed, but I figured starting there would be better than trying to practice turns at a speed that I could really get hurt at lol
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I agree, knee dragging should not be a goal but instead should be a byproduct.

Learn the necessary skills first. Before you know it, you will be avoiding the knee dragging cause pucks get expensive. I do.
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Go do a track day and get some good instruction before you develop a bunch of bad habits that will be difficult to break.

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doing circles in a parking lot trying to drag knee is not going to help you.
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I'd love to do a track day...i worry what that would do to my only transportation though. Guess it's probly safer than riding on the street.
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I kinda did the same thing you did just to get comfortable. It worked. Now I feel comfortable riding in all situations but I don't think it's gonna help you get faster or get better body position.
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:-) dunno that I'd trust a parking lot surface enough to even try to get that low
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I have full coverage ins. If I were to go down on the track would I still be covered? I've been wanting to do a track day really bad but if I wreck this bike I'm screwed without an insurance payout lol
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+100000, "dragging a knee" on the street is a good way to make it to a rider down thread...

When inertia from the speed has the bike cranked far enough over to allow your knee to touch the ground you have written a very large check to physics that
the street isn't nice about cashing...

In other words you are FAR to commited to your line to be on the street.

Take it to the track please...

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Jus go out and leave the ego at home. Your first few track days should be to concentrate on creating a good foundation not to when a trophy. You will learn more in 1 day on the track than 2 years on the street.

Next time I'm out there it won't be to set records but to refresh my mind. After being away for 2 years I can tell the my skills aren't what they were back in november of 08. My confidence has gone to zero and it is because I haven't been in an environment I can comfortably play in. If you want a trophy go race until then ride within your limited skill set and develop good habits.
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Absolutely. I did my first track day after only riding about a year and tapped a knee a few track days after.

It scared the out of me cause I was not trying to touch down with the puck, it just happened. I didnt even realize I was leaning that much.

When you learn the right way and all the different skills like body position, braking, throttle, correct lines come together, you will not even realize you are about to drag knee.
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Explore your limits on the track...


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There is no reason you can't learn and practice good body position habits and braking on the street. Body position is the foundation, and everything about riding the bike builds from there.

Track days are a wonderful part of the riders toolbox, but I wouldn't trade my last 4 day trip to TN/NC for 4 trackdays...... no comparison whatsoever when it comes to the joy of riding a bike.
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