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Old 09-17-2010, 05:19 PM   #1
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Running Reds

So I'm sure you've been in the situation where you're sitting at a red light (more specifically, a left turn red), and since you're on a bike, you never get a green light (or arrow). What do you do? Sit there forever until a cager rolls up behind you to trip the light?

Me, I run the thing... but I try to do it the "safe" way. I make sure there is no possibility of anyone hitting me. And I usually do it when the green arrow should have popped up.

Point is, I got a ticket for that today. We don't have any common sense laws in Texas? WTF!

Oh, and I know we have some resident LEO's on here... what would ya'll do? I half expected the officer to understand... but no.
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Should have ran, would not have got a ticket hsugh
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well... I can't say that's not true lol

I'm am looking up the penal code right now though... I think I might have found something to help me out.
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:53 PM   #4
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Some states have laws on the books that state if the light does not properly detect you that you should treat it as a stop sign. I also read somewhere that there may be laws on the books stating the sensors should be able to detect a motorcycle...not sure if that is true though.
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Should have ran, would not have got a ticket hsugh
bwahahahaha
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http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/genera...fic-light.html

Actually will lead you to http://www.wikihow.com/Trigger-Green-Traffic-Lights.

How to trip lights. And about magnets you can use on your bikes. I know OK has a run a red light law but I don't know if TX does. (I think it was OK.)

yeraboof, please share.

The gist of it is though, pull up to the right or left side of the loop. You can usually see where they are cut in to the street though.
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This is EXACTLY what I am talking about in this thread :

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155806

You have a decent looking scooter, wearing decent looking gear?

If you were in a $200 hooptie running on 3 cylinders belching smoke
you would have never been pulled over...
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This is EXACTLY what I am talking about in this thread :

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155806

You have a decent looking scooter, wearing decent looking gear?

If you were in a $200 hooptie running on 3 cylinders belching smoke
you would have never been pulled over...
lol, i was thinking of that thread when he pulled me over. Anyway, I found a section in the penal code about the light not registering bikes.

Sec. 544.0075. CERTAIN TRAFFIC-ACTUATED ELECTRIC TRAFFIC-CONTROL SIGNALS. (a) This section applies only to a traffic-actuated electric traffic-control signal that consists of a traffic-control signal for which the intervals vary according to the demands of vehicular traffic as registered by a detector and that is installed and operating at an intersection.
(b) In addition to any other type of vehicle the presence of which the detector for the traffic-actuated electric traffic-control signal may register, the detector for a traffic-actuated electric traffic-control device to which this section applies must be capable of registering the presence of a motorcycle.

Added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 219, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2007.


I'm gonna go and videotape myself sitting at this light for about an hour and show it to the judge! Don't have a helmet cam though...

I think I'll also print it out the penal code and keep it in my bike for future use.
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all it says is that its supposed to be capable, it didn't say squat about running it.
there is one here in my neighborhood that doesn't detect, I usually run it or go straight through and u-turn to come back to intersection and hang a right.
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all it says is that its supposed to be capable, it didn't say squat about running it.
there is one here in my neighborhood that doesn't detect, I usually run it or go straight through and u-turn to come back to intersection and hang a right.
That's true, but if the light is not "capable" of detecting a motorcycle in the first place, then it isn't legal. Can't get busted for running that because its not technically running the light. At least, that's how I have it reasoned out in my head. Like an illegal search and seizure. I'd like our lawyer friends to pop in here and give their 2 cents tho...
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17. Can I cross an intersection on a red light if my bike doesn't trigger the signal to change?
No, there are no provisions in Texas law that will allow any non-emergency vehicle to bypass a red light. You will need to turn or change lanes legally when safe then find another route. As stated in Texas Transportation Code (TRC) 544.0075 certain traffic-actuated electric traffic-control signals are required to be capable of registering the presence of a motorcycle.
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hmmm.... I'm not sure what to think of that ^. Almost seems contradictory to me. There may not be any provisions for running reds, but if the light doesn't meet said requirements then... what?

I'm gonna fight it anyway. I'm gonna have to reschedule the court date, but I'll bump this thread with my results after court... If I want to show a video in court, do I bring my own tv and equipment? Does anyone know how that works?
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Stuck at Left lights Yes I run them Ocassionally but I typically wait two cycles and if no light change I cautiously go straight on the green pulling into the adjacent lane and U Turn at next opportunity.

Rather Ride than sit.
Running is illegal so you may have to pay the price if you do.
Just the chance you take.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:58 PM   #14
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I thought this was a fishing thread. Fight the ticket for sure. I did the same and got it dropped.
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I thought this was a fishing thread. Fight the ticket for sure. I did the same and got it dropped.

me too

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Old 09-17-2010, 09:13 PM   #16
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Might want to make sure there isn't a cop around as well as it being safe. I'm with you though I run it every time. As long as it doesn't kill mr on the process.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:36 PM   #17
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this is some good info here!

i used to just run the light after i been seating there for about 10 minutes, but now i just make a U turn.

i wanna go try the magnum tip!!
i'll let ya see how that goes.
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by the way... Good luck with your case!, take a video with a camera and take it to court.
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17. Can I cross an intersection on a red light if my bike doesn't trigger the signal to change?
No, there are no provisions in Texas law that will allow any non-emergency vehicle to bypass a red light. You will need to turn or change lanes legally when safe then find another route. As stated in Texas Transportation Code (TRC) 544.0075 certain traffic-actuated electric traffic-control signals are required to be capable of registering the presence of a motorcycle.
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I don't think this is possible as there are laws against changing lanes within a certain distance of a signal light.
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17. Can I cross an intersection on a red light if my bike doesn't trigger the signal to change?
No, there are no provisions in Texas law that will allow any non-emergency vehicle to bypass a red light. You will need to turn or change lanes legally when safe then find another route. As stated in Texas Transportation Code (TRC) 544.0075 certain traffic-actuated electric traffic-control signals are required to be capable of registering the presence of a motorcycle.
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yeah but isnt this "avoiding a traffic control device"? or does that only apply to private property routes (gas stations, convenience stores and the like)
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