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Old 09-15-2010, 09:05 AM   #1
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Titanium O2 Bung / Titanium Exhaust

So I was hoping to strap the bike down to the dyno today got in a big hurry and didn't think about the material my exhaust is made out of. Punched a hole, grabbed a stainless o2 bung and went to weld it. That is when I remembered this exhaust is titanium..... So now I have a nice big hole in the side of the exhaust and nothing to weld to it. Anyeone know a place I can get a Titanium o2 bung from in Houston. Really don't want to sit and wait a week for one to come in the mail and leave things in pieces.

Other option is if someone has some Titanium bar stock at work and can machine a couple o2 bungs I'll pay you for them.

Or anyone know a magic trick for welding titanium and stainless together?
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You can weld Ti to s/s. I looking for the rod info for ya
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:30 AM   #4
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OK. I looked it up in my code books. It doesnt look good. I know it can be done, but it is not at all advised. Looks like it will most likely crack.
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The only process we were allowed to look into for Navy ships for bonding titanium to steel was explosive welding. Cool , but likely not applicable in your case.
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Yep explosive welding is the only way I knew how..... sure would like to just find a titanium bung :(
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I had this same problem.
it's either lowes or home depot (don't remember which)that sells a plug in plumbing dept that'll work. It don't look pretty but it worked for me (b4 my fkn busa was stolen)
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Looks like your best chance is a ENiCrMo-3 inco rod. That is the recommended rod when you get past a 300 series on the welding charts.
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I had this same problem.
it's either lowes or home depot (don't remember which)that sells a plug in plumbing dept that'll work. It don't look pretty but it worked for me (b4 my fkn busa was stolen)

Time out... Can you explain more on this plug? I'm having right now trying to figure this out and it's crunch time....
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nvmd my previous post, reading comprehension aint my thing today
well thx for the effort anyways....
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well thx for the effort anyways....
Like an emotional rollercoaster. I could see the elation, then the depression.
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Now I'm reading about welding ti to ti and some articles make it sound simlular to welding stainless with much higher temps required & others make it sound like you must shield everything with very pure argon from arc strike to below 800 degrees.... I just want a O2 sensor in the thing geeze....
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Argon shielding IS very important in TI welding. I do know that fo sho. If it gets red it needs shielding.
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Yeah, agreed.... stupid ti exhaust....
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Argon shielding IS very important in TI welding. I do know that fo sho. If it gets red it needs shielding.
Humidity was a major problem in New Orleans when our yard was welding Ti. We were shown videos of improperly shielded welds getting shattered with a hammer because they became so brittle.
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On the bright side i hadn't had a chance to fire up my new tig till last night... had it for like 4 months now :( But everything turned on and it hummed like the most beautiful thing I have ever heard. Now just gotta get metals that like being welded
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Could you find something like this locally?

http://www.racebolts.com/index.php?m...th=623_656_657

You would still have to find a shop to do the welding, but it may be easier to source a general metric nut than actually getting a special made bung.

Won't be as pretty, but wouldnt it still be effective in the right size?
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I can weld it not really a prob even if I have to back purge, and if I can't I can get it done here at work just gotta come up w/ the ti. Which just found a place here in town that normally makes them but his lathe is down. Says he will walk out in the shop and make sure he has some 3/4" ti in stock and hook me up w/ it. I can get the guys down stairs to machine it most likely
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:42 AM   #20
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I believe I have a Ti exhaust bung that I purchased... I had the opposite problem... was told my exhaust was Ti when it was actually stainless.
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