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Old 09-14-2010, 11:55 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Street Etiquette...Thoughts From An Oldtimer

With several decades of riding under my belt, from dirt, to street, to closed courses, there are several lessons I've learned that have kept me safe, sound, in one piece, and added some wisdom to my riding.

Every few years, a new crop of riders come along and dare to go where no one else has gone before. The only problem is, us oldtimers have already got the t-shirt and coffee mug. We've already learned that we are not bullet proof, and stupid really does hurt. If you're lucky, it will only hurt you. Unfortunately, it generally tends to hurt the innocent too.

Let's take for example the recent happenings on "Racer Road", Crabb River Road, and the forest. Police have stepped up patrols because of the residential complaints, constant buzzing of bikes, the alarming growth of accidents, and the rising death rate.

Trading thrills for lives on a public street is never a wise decision. You'll always end up the loser. So many recent threads have been made filled with banter by the opposing sides about impending dangers from thrill riding. I'm not implying that I am innocent of riding not only above my head, but also riding dangerously and irresponsibly. The point is, I learned. I listened to the older, and wiser riders. It took a while, but it finally sank in. I hope this post will inspire you to throttle back a bit when on the street.

80% Rule: Always leave yourself an out. Never ride to your limit, or above it while on the street. By having that cushion, you have plenty of time to scoot out of a situation, and will most always have a large braking zone. Save the other 20% for a closed course, where there is plenty of runoff and medics are on site to help in case of a mishap.

Mind The Gap
: Always leave plenty of room in front of, behind, and beside you to escape the inevitable. When those gaps become too small, adjust your position to open them back up.

Ride Through Traffic: I'm not suggesting that you ride it like you stole it, but by going a few mph faster than traffic, you won't be stuck between hazards for any length of time.

Be Seen: I've never understood why bikers wear black. Especially at night! I've heard so many cagers say "I never saw him." Don't be that guy. Wear bright colors. It will catch a drivers eye much faster than dull, drab colors. Use your high beams during daylight hours. It will get you noticed!

Be Respectful: Ride respectfully when in populated areas. Insane noise levels get old real quick. As does guys racing through your neighborhood. Save the hotrodding for the appropriate areas. Respect the communtity, and you'll be welcomed back. Show no regard for anyone or anything, and you'll wear your welcome out real quick. Organize a group and make improvements in the community where your favorite roads are. Make friends there, and you'll get rewarded in the long run. Buzzing the same road several times in a matter of minutes will draw very unwanted attention to you, and the rest of the rest of your two wheeled brethern.

Leave your Ego At Home: It has no place on the streets. Don't ride outside your limits. Don't be pressured to go faster or harder. Have a preset plan before you leave home. If your buddy wants to haul , let him go. You'll be certain to make it to your destination in one piece, will he?

Have A Plan
: Know your route, who you're riding with, and emergency contact numbers before you leave.


I'm sure you can add your own suggestions to this, but these are a few things that will keep you on two wheels for a long time to come.

I'm going to add some links to give you something to chew on before your next ride. Perhaps you'll think twice before twisting the wrist. Take it from those that have learned the hard way.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...ghlight=kokesh

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...+memorializing

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Old 09-14-2010, 12:12 PM   #2
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:43 PM   #8
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Nice post

Similar to you with seat time. ( daily commuting for 20+ years) and prior to that always been on dirtbikes and such.

One thing that many riders forget (myself INCLUDED) is that a lot of this experience can, and does lead to complacency. Us "old farts" who have "been there-done that", seen the same ....expect the same results. Too bad it doesnt work that way. The end result is that we up, because we thought we had seen it all. Failing to remember that EVERY situation is different, (overall picture is similar) but nothing is exactly the same. Ever. Lol, yes I have had my share of extreme stupidty/learning curve on the roads. Being a late bloomer, I had been hammered down more than I should have, before I said "ok i get it! I guess i am not as much of the exception to the rule, as I thought I was" :P


but I personally dont believe in the "80 percent rule". for several reasons. (not the "rule" itself, just the number.) I think 80 percent is too high. And I also think that the average (under 5) year street rider, feels he/she is an "above average" street rider, for the knowledge they have acquired, in the short time they have been riding.

majority of us are not the exception to the rule. (we think we are, but we are not) straight up. and the ones that are, typically dont show it, or dont know it....or are getting paid big bucks for it.

remember, "you" are not that great, or wheaties boxes would have your face adorning em, and you would be a household name.

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Gau-8 and Godsuki both good posts. Thank you for the reminders.
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Dont listen to him. Drive it like you stole it. Unless you are riding my bike. LOL Cant have anyone thinking I am a complete idiot now.
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I been riding like this for the last 40 years... great post tim..
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This post could not be more true. as a daily commuter, sometimes i find myself doing thigs in traffic that are just stupid, and it's because i get impatient, i get tired of being hot in all the gear and start moving through traffic taking gaps i shouldn't just because i'm running late and i'm on a machine that can do that. Recently i've been working on toning it down. i leave a little earlier and take the HOV when i can. it's more than a little tempting to take an oncomming turn at a speed well above the limit, but the more i see and the more close calls i have and situations i put myself in the more i realize i won't be able to ride away every time, and who wants to die on the way to work? or on a back road? not me.

group rides have become a love/hate thing for me. i went to a pasadena meet the other night and ended up splitting off and heading home almost as soon as we left. i saw close to 20 bikes and maybe one other person wearing more than a helmet, then we get on the road and it's mayhem, almost no one using turn signals, i almost got hit twice in a matter of minutes by other riders not paying attention to their surroundings. luck is the reason many riders are still alive today, myself included
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Good post....I've been following those rules for years, except for #1.....the 80% rule. I believe mine is somewhere between 85-90%
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Nevermind Tim please. I'd like to keep getting cheap salvage bikes in the future, so keep squiding it up.
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