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Old 09-10-2010, 03:37 PM   #1
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title signed by po but not registered

so.... previous owner of the bike signed the title, but never registered. title is filled out but date of sale is not filled in.

i called tax office to see if there would be issues being he signed it and didnt register (of course he has to live 2 hours away)

they said they could not do anything without proof of ownership?

i thought bill of sale would get me through.

what should i do?
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Old 09-10-2010, 03:52 PM   #2
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If the P.O. signed the title and never registered it, than technically the P.P.O. (previous owner X2) still owns it. Whatever name is printed on the front of the title.

you can A). file for lost title or B). get a bonded title...

If your looking for the fastest way, get a bonded title, but it'll prolly set you back $200 + or - after everything is said and done.
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Old 09-10-2010, 03:57 PM   #3
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ok figured it out. guy on the title has to give me copy of his drivers license and fill out a form.

take form and copy of dmv to courthouse and they print new title same day.

take new title and reciept and can register at that point.

guy who signed the back is out of the picture.

easier than i thought.

why so complicated?

oh yeah... its my luck.
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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hmm make sure you dont tell them that the guy u bought it from never titled it when you get there....they are going to want him to title it then for u to title it if Im not mistakin...yea titling vehicles is way more complicated that it really should be
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:35 PM   #5
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forgery is always an option, not that I would ever do anything that the state frowns upon
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forgery is always an option, not that I would ever do anything that the state frowns upon
sometimes it's the easy way, i did NOT do that with my old f3
lady looked at me funny, thought i was in trouble, then just pushed it on through.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:52 PM   #7
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well found the guy on the front of the title (po x2) thru google, got a home number and his address matched the address on the title. called the number and got a answering machine varifying his last name.

kinda awkward "uh yeah this is a guy who bought your bike from the guy you sold it to, he never registered it, but he signed the back of the title, so i cant title it. bikes still in your name, so i need to get a copy of you drivers license and get you to sign a form so i can register your bike"

dont know if he will call me back. will give it till tomorrow night then call back from another number and try my luck again.

if he decides to not call me back, my only options are-

apply for lost title, or do the bonded title.

now my question is-

if i apply for a lost title, and my names not on the title when they look it up by vin, arent they going to just tell me what they already have me doing? which is get a copy of the guys dl who is on the title, get him to fill out a form, then bring to courthouse so they can print a new copy?

i cant just go apply for a lost title in someone elses name, and get it mailed to my house or pick it up can i?


all so complicated.


if anyone else has been in this dilly of a pickle please share ur story.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:54 PM   #8
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forgery is always an option, not that I would ever do anything that the state frowns upon
cant do that its illegal

plus bonehead i got it from already filled in all teh blanks on teh title with his info.



looks like if the guy on the front of the title wont return my calls, will be going with bonded title


apparently without a copy of his ID, its a no-go.
Lost Vehicle Titles

If a title is misplaced, you can get a certified copy by following the steps below. If a lien is recorded, the lienholder should complete the application for certified copy of title.

By Mail

1. Complete a certified copy of title application.
2. Enclose a copy of the owner's valid photo ID and $2 mail-in fee by check, cashier's check or money order (no cash accepted) payable to the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles. An agent of the owner or lienholder must also provide a letter of signature authority on original letterhead, a business card or a copy of the agent's employee ID.
3. Mail the application to your vehicle titles and registration regional office.

In Person

1. Visit the nearest vehicle titles and registration regional office.
2. Complete a certified copy of title application.
3. Provide a valid photo ID and $5.45 fee by check, cash or money order (no debit or credit card accepted). An agent of the owner or lienholder must also provide a letter of signature authority on original letterhead, a business card or a copy of the agent's employee ID.

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Old 09-10-2010, 11:00 PM   #9
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Dude.. this is easy.. There is a form for stuff like this.. An affidavit of fact (or truth, its for when you mess up on the title. Or dont sell it to whoever signed it) cant remember.. All you do is fill it out like you are the PO (named on the title) and sign it with the box checked that it was never sold to the guy who you bought it from. Then it skips him and goes straight to you. That simple. End of story, and WAY EASY.. Plus its FREEE .. fck some bonded title .

I had to do this before for a bike I got. I managed to track down the PO and for him to sign it, but I would just forge that with a quickness. If you cant find PO.. Like they are really gonna sit there and stare and compare everything is a spot on match... Well.. never happened to me anyway

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something like this, but that one is boat related.. Just go to your local tax collectors office and ask for one

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publicat...it_of_fact.pdf

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Old 09-10-2010, 11:07 PM   #11
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niceeeee



i was just looking at googled bonded title junk--- looks to be 100 buck service fee, and 15 bucks for every 1000 worth of bond.

bond is determined at blue book or nada value times 1.5.

so as said before id be looking at about 200 bucks that route.

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Old 09-11-2010, 10:53 PM   #13
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will do.

still havent decided on that or bond company.

figured since affidavit is free, wanted to see how much more it would be to go legal and get bonded title

i googled some more yesterday and came up with a bond company here in town that advertises on craislist as being affordable.

i emailed them with the info for a quote, i assume they are closed for the weekend. i will post up with how much they quote.

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