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Old 08-30-2010, 05:16 PM   #61
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I know for a fact that my loud pipe has saved me on multiple occasions. I've had people come into my lane and for me it's more instinctive to pull the clutch and rev than it is to fiddle on the handle bars looking for the horn.

So you guys can argue decibels all day long, but my shortened akro is staying on my bike.
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Ironic. On my way home, I was doing about 40mph on 1960. I was in the far right lane, put my blinker to change lanes and I hear the exhaust of a sportbike. I immediately abandoned changing lanes till I saw where it was coming from. Me being a motorcycle rider maybe it is easier for me to keep an ear out but this is where it gets interesting. Unaware that my wife was paying attention in the passenger seat over the radio and my jabbering 3 yr old daugher, my wife says "ok I hear it but I don't see it" Surely she wasn't talking about the same thing so I ask her like I didn't know. She responded "I hear the bike" just as an orange colored sportbike passes me on my left.

Clearly it doesn't work. Loud pipes make absolutely no difference. Even when she doesn't ride motorcycles.
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:44 PM   #65
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old news and nice to see something along this line again for the noobs... i am pretty annoyed with the exhaust i put on my bike. cops have pulled me over after getting on the freeway just cuz they heard me coming i'm like really mr popo and he laughed. i dont like the vacuum cleaner sound the stock one came with however what i have now is just too much.
shush it, that arrow can is sweet. i love mine, and i won't let you badmouth the arrow. it does make our bikes sound like a ducati after all
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This is me and it happens all the time! I just installed some loud pipes on my bike and people actually pay attention to me (including the ones on their cell phones!)
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I can't believe this argument still exists. Like thread after thread after thread one several different sites. If you don't think it works who gives a if the next person does.. It's their bike.. Let them do with it wtf they want. GEEEZE already. In only 10 years of riding and only cruisers up to my current bike, I have to say the best I had was a lil o' Kawi kz650 (I miss her). Had straight pipes, and I got more attention (to include people not paying attention) than not. No it's not a science, but if it catches one person's attention (which I hear pipes of all times all the time in my car w/ my 12" sub going) that's one accident avoided.. It's not 100% but it's not 0% either people.. Can't you just agree to disagree and both sides are right.. GET OVER IT!!!!!
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If you dog runs out in the street and you think an oncoming car is about to hit your dog because they do not see it, what do you do...you yell. You think if you yell "STOP" loud enough there is a chance they will see your dog and won't hit it. You don't think..well my voice is only 85 decibels and the combined road noise and sound insulation of the car will keep them from hearing me so I why bother even yelling. He should have known better than to run out into the street. If he would have just stayed in the yard he wouldn't have put himself at risk. So I shouldn't even bother yelling. And besides I don't want to disturb the neighbors because that would be rude. Am I making any sense?
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this is like da gear or no gear threads.. who cares just dew da dew and ride, experience will let u kno
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Also worth noting is that the soundwaves from the exhaust are directed and concentrated rearward from the bike. If the bike is closing on the car at a reasonable speed difference, most drivers probably wouldn't notice anything until the rider's passing them anyway. +1 in regard to newer cars being well insulated from ambient sounds. I have many times had trouble hearing fire truck and police sirens untill they were very near, with the radio at a normal and reasonable level. There are certainly those who truly believe that it makes a big safety impact. I believe that there are far more that simply use it as a lame excuse to have a super loud exhaust and justify it as a necessity. I just can't help to notice that most friends, family and others who have preached this philosophy to me are the same ones who have no safety concerns about riding drunk or helmetless. Just man up and say it. "I have a loud exhaust because I think it sounds cool.". In the end, that's still 90% of the reason people buy loud pipes versus the marginal safety benefit.
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this is like da gear or no gear threads.. who cares just dew da dew and ride, experience will let u kno
Perfectly said. All the "My nuts know more than your nuts" BS. Tell them "You do you and Imma do me".

To whom is either side of the argument trying to prove this to... Themselves? Someone close this thread.. It's taking up valuable real estate at the top of the list....
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I didnt read the thread.

When I'm driving with the radio on and my 4 yr old son in the back watching his dvd cartoons, I can almost always hear a bike coming and actively look for it in my rearview mirrors. One time, I was trying to move over one lane to exit, heard the exhaust rev and slowed down. Guy was speeding and I told my girlfriend, "Look at that ". She knew immediately which way to turn cause she heard it too.

I don't know about tests and decibels and all that jibber jabber, but in my experience, they have most definitely heightened my awarenss that they're around me.
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I didnt read the thread.

I don't know about tests and decibels and all that jibber jabber, but in my experience, they have most definitely heightened my awarenss that they're around me.

part of it (and was even mentioned in this thread) was the "I hear him but dont see him!" excuse.. (dont take it personally whover said that! just using the example, as it happens fairly often)

compared to your statement (but I didnt quote) about "actively scanning" the rear/side view mirror system.

I am willing to bet you have your mirrors set up correctly for the real blind spot, and not...

. pointing back at you
. running down the length of your vehicle. (pointing at your tail lights, or at least visible)
3. pointed at your tires.

(these are places where one can hear a bike, next to the vehicle, but not see them.) I see too many cars that dont have thier mirrors even remotely in useable positions (and many are posted here on the forum, laughing at other bikers, with the pics snapped within thier car)

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I am willing to bet you have your mirrors set up correctly for the real blind spot, and not...
It bothers me to no end when people have all 3 of their car/truck mirrors facing directly behind them. If you threw 2 more mirrors on their vehicle, they'd all be facing tp the exact same spot too, I bet.
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Loud pipes DO HELP get noticed by others on the road. No it's not a failsafe. You can bring out all the sound eveidence you want but they do help.

I don't know how many times someone was merging into my lane and didn't hear my horn. But they sure as heard my exhaust when i bounced it off the rev limiter real quick. I know i've heard bikes in my blind spot and couldn't see them while i'm in my truck.

Bottom line, no question, louder pipes do save lives.
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I know for a fact that my loud pipe has saved me on multiple occasions. I've had people come into my lane and for me it's more instinctive to pull the clutch and rev than it is to fiddle on the handle bars looking for the horn.

So you guys can argue decibels all day long, but my shortened akro is staying on my bike.
do you realize that you can probably accelerate out of the situation quicker than you can bounce it off the rev limiter and getting out of the compromising situation is safer becuase if you bounce off the rev limiter you are still beside them
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I can't believe this argument still exists. Like thread after thread after thread one several different sites. If you don't think it works who gives a if the next person does.. It's their bike.. Let them do with it wtf they want. GEEEZE already. In only 10 years of riding and only cruisers up to my current bike, I have to say the best I had was a lil o' Kawi kz650 (I miss her). Had straight pipes, and I got more attention (to include people not paying attention) than not. No it's not a science, but if it catches one person's attention (which I hear pipes of all times all the time in my car w/ my 12" sub going) that's one accident avoided.. It's not 100% but it's not 0% either people.. Can't you just agree to disagree and both sides are right.. GET OVER IT!!!!!
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You guys are missing a very big point of threads like this. LEGALITY The debate is due to the fact of an officer giving tickets because of bikes being too loud. When they help save lives and prevent accidents they should not be outlawed. It isn't just about what WE think. Look at myrtle beach for example, there are laws against loud exhausts there. You are required to have baffles in and are required to be under a certain db level. We don't want that to happen here as we believe it helps save lives.
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do you realize that you can probably accelerate out of the situation quicker than you can bounce it off the rev limiter and getting out of the compromising situation is safer becuase if you bounce off the rev limiter you are still beside them
If you are on 1960, there is no way to speed up as there is a car right in front of you, and slamming on your brakes will cause you to get hit cuz lets face it, they don't give you room, and to your left you have on of those nice new median curbs, and to your right you have a car coming over, what would YOU do? Hope you lane split quick enough to not get hit? Honk your horn? Rev your bike? or jump the curb?
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