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Old 07-28-2010, 05:07 PM   #41
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sounds like you shouldn't be doing your own break jobs, my friend. be safe.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:08 PM   #42
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sounds like you shouldn't be doing your own break jobs, my friend. be safe.
Brake, everybody he is talking about breaks.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:24 PM   #43
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The way you describe using your brakes worries me. You are doing it backwards. There is a high probability your use will catch up to you in a matter of time. I really hope this thread opens your eyes. I hope you get it fixed and then learn to use the right way. It could save your life. Im not being an at all. Those front brakes are where it at.
When braking the weight is transferred to the front. This transfer lightens the rear. This means the effectiveness of the rear brakes under emergency situations is nearly 0.
I use my Front for prob 80% braking power under normal stopping distances, but i do try to balance the two. is the rear really THAT useless when trying to stop in the shortest possible distance? it's been 2 yrs since my MSF, but i really thought ur best braking is by applying F and R brakes, but obviously using the front to bear the heaviest load.

if not for the fact i NEVER want to lock up my front brake.
Please correct if i'm way off.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:25 PM   #44
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Brake, everybody he is talking about breaks.
^ haha beat me to it . i thought he was just trying to be Punny with the usage of break
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:56 PM   #45
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I use my Front for prob 80% braking power under normal stopping distances, but i do try to balance the two. is the rear really THAT useless when trying to stop in the shortest possible distance? it's been 2 yrs since my MSF, but i really thought ur best braking is by applying F and R brakes, but obviously using the front to bear the heaviest load.

if not for the fact i NEVER want to lock up my front brake.
Please correct if i'm way off.
Your right about 80%. If you are trying to stop very quick it changes they way the bike brakes. Think how long you would slide if you jammed the rear at say 60. Now imagine you needed to stop in say 60'. Rear only at speed is asking for it on a sport bike.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:20 PM   #46
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Dude seriously, where the did you learn that brake fluid is soy based? That is so not true, the boiling point of a soy based liquid is nowhere near high enough to be used as brake fluid!

Both dot 3 and 4 are glycol-ether based and dot 5 in silicone based!

Yeah they are all very hydroscopic and will pull water through seals and even through the rubber hoses over time.
Brake fluids should be a light yellow color ( the silicone fluids can be made any color) the darker the fluid the more water contamination that it has, which lowers the boiling point and also allows the fluid to loose it's pressure transfer abilities.

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Sad thing is, this is written on every container of quality brake fluid... Then again judging by the grammar in this thread/on this forum most of these guys can barely read.
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I can reads. I speel like though. LOL
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I can reads. I speel like though. LOL
I wasn't singling anyone out, just a kind of general observation
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I use my Front for prob 80% braking power under normal stopping distances, but i do try to balance the two. is the rear really THAT useless when trying to stop in the shortest possible distance? it's been 2 yrs since my MSF, but i really thought ur best braking is by applying F and R brakes, but obviously using the front to bear the heaviest load.

if not for the fact i NEVER want to lock up my front brake.
Please correct if i'm way off.
Depends on the bike. Sport bikes are short and tall, and when you use the front hard the rear is usually very light.

Using the rear slightly before the front helps to squat the chassis and cut down on the weight transfer, but then you need to ease off once the fronts unload the rear tire. I set my rear so it is impossible to lock without really really trying. I also prefer the rear to trail brake as it doesn't upset the chassis as much as the fronts do.

That being said, I replace the front pads fairly often, and the rears are stock... the old Bandit had 25000 on them.

Ideally you should be comfortable with using all the fronts have to offer. I regularly practice on a deserted back road panic braking just so my habits don't fail me when I need them.
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