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Old 07-26-2010, 02:01 PM   #101
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Yeah and if that was your sister, or your daughter so would you. Now how about all of you quit acting like I'm making it this riders' fault.
No one has implied anything of the sort. People are upset with her for making the decisions she did, and with you for coming across as if you're in support of her. Either way, I'm done with it.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:10 PM   #102
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Please quote me where I have excused her behavior
This post right here. Seems like you're saying "Well, we've all done dumb like this, she just made a boo-boo. Let it go".
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Jesus guy, give it a break.
I was pretty well done until you decided to claim I've insulted your entire family and refer to all 19 year old women the way I do this .
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All I said is that I feel bad for her because her life is seemingly ruined.
Good for you. I don't.
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Of course I feel bad for the officer and his family as well, but is being off at this girl going to bring him back?
No it isn't, and nobody expects it to. However, we DO expect to see this drunken killer spend a lot of time in jail.
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No, it's not. At least she, no matter how bad she royally up, has a chance to do something, ANYTHING....
Not really. She's going to spend a few years in jail, get out with a felony record, and very likely go on to make absolutely nothing of her life except as a drain on my tax dollars.
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but you're focused on what she messed up on.
Well lets think about this - this is a motorcycle forum and she killed a guy on a bike that is known to a number of people here due to her own selfish stupidity. These are facts. What she may do in the future is merely conjecture.

Some of us like to discuss reality instead of some pipe-dream that a colossal -up will somehow turn into a useful member of society after spending a period of time behind bars.
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Seems like everytime there is an e-fight, honorsdaddy is always around to troll it up a notch.

My condolences to the rider...
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:17 PM   #105
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No, I have nothing to talk about with that clown. I guess expressing my sympathy on here is a no-no. I could give a what honor or anyone else feels about who I shed sympathy on, but i don't.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:23 PM   #106
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It's called "Life" and happens. I guess when all of you get backed into a corner, you just sit down and cry?

I know someone who did the same thing, she was 19 as well and killed a city worker on accident. She didn't go to jail, and she was found to have cocaine in her system. Every second that passes is another chance to turn your life around, I would like to see this girl do that... apparently you guys wouldn't.
I would too, but not until she serves time for it... but honestly... and you'd probably be glad it wasn't up to me, but if it was... she'd have the death penalty. if you want to stop people from drinking and driving... that would be a way.
we shouldn't have to worry about drunk people out there taking us out. it's hard enough to stay alive out there with just the dumbass drivers, throw a drunk into the mix and it makes it even worse.
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If my daughter chose to do something that stupid, yes.

There is no excuse for it. None whatsoever. Take a cab. Call a friend. Stay there. Better yet, don't drink when you're under age.

My daughter will be told the same thing I was - if she's ever too drunk to drive, i don't care HOW late she calls me, I will ALWAYS come and get her.

You can try all you want to appeal to my emotions on this, but right is right and wrong is wrong. In this case, the stupid girl was 100% in the wrong.

And for the record - this kid was not old enough to be drinking. She is 19. Last time I looked, the drinking age is 21. Perhaps it is different in the little piece of the universe she inhabits.
YOU SAY THAT NOW. easy to say it when you not in the situation.
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I would too, but not until she serves time for it... but honestly... and you'd probably be glad it wasn't up to me, but if it was... she'd have the death penalty. if you want to stop people from drinking and driving... that would be a way.
we shouldn't have to worry about drunk people out there taking us out. it's hard enough to stay alive out there with just the dumbass drivers, throw a drunk into the mix and it makes it even worse.
No it wouldn't be a way. People get the death penalty for committing capital murder, but it still happens all the time. You can't stop evil and bad things from happening on this earth. Humans are not perfect and will NEVER be.

I'm just saying that if SHE was a part of your family, you would feel different. So while we can't help him out anymore, maybe you should think about how to help HER out. And yes, maybe going to jail is a way to help her...
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No it wouldn't be a way. People get the death penalty for committing capital murder, but it still happens all the time. You can't stop evil and bad things from happening on this earth. Humans are not perfect and will NEVER be.

I'm just saying that if SHE was a part of your family, you would feel different. So while we can't help him out anymore, maybe you should think about how to help HER out. And yes, maybe going to jail is a way to help her...
another one of those semantics things... murder is murder. did someone die as a result of your actions? i know it's not always that cut and dry but i feel this is. her stupid decisions resulted in someones son, husband, and father being killed. i do actually feel bad for her... she couldn't help the fact that her parents clearly didn't teach her any better so they failed as parents.
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Rather than help her out... based on her past decisions, I would rather have her behind bars.

That way there is one less to worry about running me over... or my family or grandchildren or friends.

I am one of those like SbFuller who feels the justice system has gotten way too lax, and now we are saddled with way too many "poor me" types.

At yes, I can blame the parents for raising her and say they deserve a slap as well. There is no excuse for anything she has done.
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another one of those semantics things... murder is murder. did someone die as a result of your actions? i know it's not always that cut and dry but i feel this is. her stupid decisions resulted in someones son, husband, and father being killed. i do actually feel bad for her... she couldn't help the fact that her parents clearly didn't teach her any better so they failed as parents.
That's not entirely true. Do you speed? Do you roll stop signs? Do you j-walk? Those are all crimes, and while they may not have caused the death of anyone, would you say your parents and/or teachers have failed to teach you what's wrong and right?

You can't blame it on her parents.
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Actually, at 19 with a kid already and apparently living at home, yes I can blame her upbringing.
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Rather than help her out... based on her past decisions, I would rather have her behind bars.

That way there is one less to worry about running me over... or my family or grandchildren or friends.

I am one of those like SbFuller who feels the justice system has gotten way too lax, and now we are saddled with way too many "poor me" types.

At yes, I can blame the parents for raising her and say they deserve a slap as well. There is no excuse for anything she has done.
That's so ridiculous to assume. You have NO idea how her upbringing was. So how about all of you guys who speed on the highways on your motorcycle? Should that be a direct insult to your parents who taught you to follow the speed limit?
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For 's sake, I feel like the name should be changed to www.AllSaintsHouston.com

All you have to do is look around this site and you'll see 100 threads full of idiotic statements/actions.
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My parents taught me not to drink and drive
They also taught me having a kit out of marriage is dumb

They also taught me to take responsibility for my actions, right and wrong.
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They also taught me having a kit out of marriage is dumb

They also taught me to take responsibility for my actions, right and wrong.
Congratulations. What makes you think her parents didn't do the same? People do they were told not to all the time. COPS make mistakes too, and they wear a badge. Why don't we blame the entire police force for not teaching them right from wrong...
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For 's sake, I feel like the name should be changed to www.AllSaintsHouston.com

All you have to do is look around this site and you'll see 100 threads full of idiotic statements/actions.

Pot, meet kettle. You aren't doing all that well either sport.

Never claimed to be a saint. Haven't met one yet either. But call it like it is, dumb is dumb, reap what ye sow.
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That's not entirely true. Do you speed? yes but there is a time and place to do that where if something happens, my choices do not affect another innocent family. Do you roll stop signs? noDo you j-walk? no but even if i did, that will not kill somebody but my own dumbass for doing it if i got hit by a carThose are all crimes, and while they may not have caused the death of anyone, would you say your parents and/or teachers have failed to teach you what's wrong and right? not, they have taught me right and wrong but they have also taught me that there are consequenses for those actions. I weight the pros vs. cons and decide if i wan to take that risk.

You can't blame it on her parents.

her parents failed in teaching her that there are consequenses to her actions.
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Pot, meet kettle. You aren't doing all that well either sport.

Never claimed to be a saint. Haven't met one yet either. But call it like it is, dumb is dumb, reap what ye sow.
The only thing you can blame me for is having sympathy. Like I said before I never condoned her actions...

Feelings sorry for her, and saying what she did was ok are two completely different things. If you would have ever picked up on that, anything I said wouldn't have bothered you so much.
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Well what are her parents' names? Since you know the family so well....

I'll wait
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