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Old 07-24-2010, 06:11 PM   #1
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Quick question: battery dead / stator

Just a quick question: I'm looking to buy a bike but battery is dead. The guy says it runs fine, just needs a jump to get her going. Is there any way to tell if the stator needs to be replaced?

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Since I don't know much I didn't initialy post, but since no one else answered I'll tell you what I "think". If the bike wasn't ran for a while it is likely just the battery, not the stator. And if it has carbs ( I know nothing about fuel injection) they probably need to be cleaned, which could be expensive if you take it to the shop. Also, why take the owners word that it runs if you can't verify that?
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Yeah... this bike is being sold out of a motorcycle/atv shop. Looks like they run a mechanic shop with bike/atv sales on the side... So who knows where this bike came from, whether it burns oil, or if I charge up the battery it might die down the road because of a bad stator/rectifier. Of course it's being sold "as is" (as expected). I wish they would give me 3 days return warranty so I could take it to my own mechanic...
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ask them to swap a battery from another bike.
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Which brings me to the next point... How expensive is it to have a mobile motorcycle mechanic go with me to look at bike?? I know basic auto mechanics but not much about bikes.
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This whole situation is suspect. I thought you were bying from an individual that hadn't rode it in a while. Why would they not just replace the batery?
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This whole situation is suspect. I thought you were bying from an individual that hadn't rode it in a while. Why would they not just replace the batery?
Good question. I went by the shop today and the bike was tucked away behind a sea of ATV's. I think it would take at least 15-20 mins just to move all those ATV's to get to the bike! So... maybe it's just been sitting in the shop for so long that they're getting tired of looking at it? The mechanic at the shop, Mark, was really cool and friendly. Still, it's one of those things that makes it a little different than buying from a private party.
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Tell him that if it runs, you will buy it, simple as that. If a seller won't spend $100 to buy a battery to make it run like he said it would then there must be something else he is not disclosing, unless you are buying it dirt cheap.
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what kind of bike and how much also would hel[ out alot. +1 to what level 5 said too.
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what kind of bike and how much also would hel[ out alot. +1 to what level 5 said too.
It's a '94 Yamaha FZR1000 w/about 23, miles and I think he's asking $2400 for it. Looked clean, no signs of it being laid down...
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It's a '94 Yamaha FZR1000 w/about 23, miles and I think he's asking $2400 for it. Looked clean, no signs of it being laid down...
My ZZR 600 in near mint condition with 7000 miles on is worth around 4500 to 5000 Think about it.
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My ZZR 600 in near mint condition with 7000 miles on is worth around 4500 to 5000 Think about it.
What year is the ZZR? This FZR is 16 yrs old and has 3 times the miles your 600 does. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.
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What year is the ZZR? This FZR is 16 yrs old and has 3 times the miles your 600 does. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.
Sorry, 2007
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Went to the Kelly Blue Book site, and it suggest the value at 2640 with the assumption that it has been fully reconditioned and in excellent condition. That bike won't even run right now, who knows what could be wrong with it. Does it have good tires? Obviously anything like that will add to your cost.
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Went to the Kelly Blue Book site, and it suggest the value at 2640 with the assumption that it has been fully reconditioned and in excellent condition. That bike won't even run right now, who knows what could be wrong with it. Does it have good tires? Obviously anything like that will add to your cost.
Looked good, fairings not scraped/rashed, handle bar end caps appeared original and not scraped/rashed, blinkers not busted off, etc. Tires have plenty of life too so the question is, does it burn oil? Clutch slipping? Carbs OK? Leak oil from head? Compression failing in a cylinder?

Oh, there was 1 issue he pointed out: the slip on exhaust wasn't welded right so there's a gap near the bottom where pressure escapes. I guess that's an easy fix though... He was very eager to start it up though, but he was kinda busy with his work when I walked up. So the other question remains: is there something wrong with the charging system that keeps draining the battery?? I wish I knew more about bikes!
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Looked good, fairings not scraped/rashed, handle bar end caps appeared original and not scraped/rashed, blinkers not busted off, etc. Tires have plenty of life too so the question is, does it burn oil? Clutch slipping? Carbs OK? Leak oil from head? Compression failing in a cylinder?

Oh, there was 1 issue he pointed out: the slip on exhaust wasn't welded right so there's a gap near the bottom where pressure escapes. I guess that's an easy fix though... He was very eager to start it up though, but he was kinda busy with his work when I walked up. So the other question remains: is there something wrong with the charging system that keeps draining the battery?? I wish I knew more about bikes!
I just think it's a deal, but I form that opinion from a limited amount of knowledge. Also, the only way I would want a bike that old is if it was impossible to get a newer one.
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I just think it's a deal, but I form that opinion from a limited amount of knowledge. Also, the only way I would want a bike that old is if it was impossible to get a newer one.
My funds are pretty limited... Unless someone at MH would be so generous as to offer a newer bike to me. I don't see that happening though so I gotta make due with the $$$ I got.
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are you looking for a liter bike?

if not then
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are you looking for a liter bike?

if not then
http://houston.craigslist.org/search...600&srchType=A
Sort of... I kinda want a cruiser but then again I also want a liter bike. I guess it depends on what I can find, condition, price, model, etc.
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It's a '94 Yamaha FZR1000 w/about 23, miles and I think he's asking $2400 for it. Looked clean, no signs of it being laid down...
For this price, you should buy the bike running. If he's not willing to then you can bet that there is more problems than just the battery. So, to answer your original question "Is there any way to tell if the stator needs to be replaced?", yes. You can check voltage at the battery terminals. If you have at least 13.5v output to the battery then it's good but you have get it start and running at 4k rpm.
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