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Old 07-22-2010, 03:37 PM   #21
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Its because Tq numbers are pretty important factors as well.
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I think the numbers on the OP's 09 R1 are in line what I have heard/seen. The good thing is you made a solid 7hp gain from midrange all the way... As for dynoing on another day with better weather, you will likely get the same numbers because your dyno chart is in STD correction therefore it was already corrected to a better weather standard. In actual better weather, you will just have less correction factor added in.

I wouldn't be disappointed though...150rwhp is plenty good for a street/track bike.....
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...look at the midrange on the Honda! 5-10k rpm it just smokes everyone. Perfect for the street
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That is the perfect example of why HP numbers are not all that important. The BMW has 25HP over the R1 and only 2 tenths faster around the track. The Honda took that track though!
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For comparison purposes.....Here is my chart on my old dinosaur 01 1000

One graph is completely stock with a slip on, the other graph is a full Akro race system and custom map....Stock everything else, including the stock air filter.

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Jonnycheese...seriously! I'm calling that number tomorrow to ask him how much I have to smoke before I go, "I'm seriously considering starting a dyno tuning shop. I think I want to get a Dynojet, put the headquarters in Austin, and call it Jonnycheese."
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Jonnycheese...seriously! I'm calling that number tomorrow to ask him how much I have to smoke before I go, "I'm seriously considering starting a dyno tuning shop. I think I want to get a Dynojet, put the headquarters in Austin, and call it Jonnycheese."
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For comparison purposes.....Here is my chart on my old dinosaur 01 1000

One graph is completely stock with a slip on, the other graph is a full Akro race system and custom map....Stock everything else, including the stock air filter.

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the stock OE graph doesn't look right at all,
was it a "restricted" model??
an import????
French market models are restricted to 100bhp, Swiss market models even less!!
it seems particularly low is what I'm saying!!!
a full Akra Evo + map does not equal 70+ hp gain on an GSXR1000!!
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the stock OE graph doesn't look right at all,
was it a "restricted" model??
an import????
French market models are restricted to 100bhp, Swiss market models even less!!
it seems particularly low is what I'm saying!!!
a full Akra Evo + map does not equal 70+ hp gain on an GSXR1000!!
Take another look. Its a 12.2 hp gain. I think your comparing the Tq to the Hp
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the stock OE graph doesn't look right at all,
was it a "restricted" model??
an import????
French market models are restricted to 100bhp, Swiss market models even less!!
it seems particularly low is what I'm saying!!!
a full Akra Evo + map does not equal 70+ hp gain on an GSXR1000!!
The two higher curves are hp, the two lower curves are torque.
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Take another look. Its a 12.2 hp gain. I think your comparing the Tq to the Hp
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The two higher curves are hp, the two lower curves are torque.


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more coffee and some specs are needed I guess.......

12 to 15 is exactly what I would expect to see
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that's actually a pretty good gain. It's never as high as everyone hopes. Main thing is ridability.
I gained almost 7hp out of min when I did my first tune. Here is my graph. Of course it's a 2007 GSX-R1000. Odly enough I put on a slip on M4 on my bike only and PC3 at the time and another buddy same bike did the full M4 stainless steel exhaust and BMC Race filter and got the exact same numbers as mine. Only difference is he spent over $1K more and added weight with the Stainless exhaust. The stock headers are really hard to beat these days.
I'm like most peps though. I was expecting more from the new R1 though. Just keep in mind tunning should be more for ridability not big HP bragging numbers.
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Gixxerman, NICE #s... But you should really take that thing back to Billy and have him fix you fuel curve...that is horrible...not to mention it's still lean as . I would bet if you get that curve down to 12.8-13.0 you would gain a few more hp...and sure run better out on the road.

Sometimes a leaner fuel curve may show more hp on the dyno but they almost always go faster with them slightly richer.....

Those new gixxers are strong as ....10-15hp more then my 01 and rev 1000rpms higher...
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Gixxerman, NICE #s... But you should really take that thing back to Billy and have him fix you fuel curve...that is horrible...not to mention it's still lean as . I would bet if you get that curve down to 12.8-13.0 you would gain a few more hp...and sure run better out on the road.

Sometimes a leaner fuel curve may show more hp on the dyno but they almost always go faster with them slightly richer.....

Those new gixxers are strong as ....10-15hp more then my 01 and rev 1000rpms higher...
I saw that too. I wasn't gonna point it out though. Billy kept mine rich.
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Gixxerman, NICE #s... But you should really take that thing back to Billy and have him fix you fuel curve...that is horrible...not to mention it's still lean as . I would bet if you get that curve down to 12.8-13.0 you would gain a few more hp...and sure run better out on the road.

Sometimes a leaner fuel curve may show more hp on the dyno but they almost always go faster with them slightly richer.....

Those new gixxers are strong as ....10-15hp more then my 01 and rev 1000rpms higher...
Thanks. Yeah I already did another tune when I added the ignition module and quick shifter. It's better now. When I originally did it Billy didn't like the result either, but said the bike actually ran better this way at the time. He mentioned he could get the numbers closer for the perfect air/fuel ratio from the get go, but the throttle response was not as good when it was there. I just cared about ridability. Not sure maybe at the time he was not as good at tunning as he is now. It was back in 2007 the original time. I think I actually had the first PC3 installed at there shop for the 07's and was definantly the first 07 they dyno tuned.
The 2nd dyno tune almost a year later he got the air/fuel numbers a little better, but the HP came down I think 1 or 2 I can't remember, but the bike road better for sure. Mostly because I think my PC3 was messed up. They ended up replacing it with a new one under warrenty. Anyway I didn't have the new dyno sheet with me at work though.
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They (Tejas) are pretty good about reducing the price after the initial tune is done. If you just need little tough ups due to some mod. they are cheaper. The rate is 75/hr . A little change can be fixed in the 1 hour. The Busa has been on their dyno 3 times now.
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