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Old 07-15-2010, 08:10 AM   #1
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Let's look at this whole Rossi WSBK thing

I'm not sure everyone grasps the truly awesome nature of Rossi's laps at Brno. It's been on my mind for the past several days, and it's simply amazing.

On Toseland's bike, who is/ was a MotoGP caliber rider, riding "against" lap times of the top tier WSBK racers, who have developed and raced their machines for 2+ years in some case; and Rossi comes out with a broken femur and desimates their times riding no less than 46 laps?!?!?

Is 46 laps even a whole track day?

I mean come on... that's just incredible!
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I'm with you Tom, when Alberto first posted that he had bettered the reg factory guys time I was a little disbelieving but as we now know, he did!!!
Only the second time out on Pirelli's too,
like I said, how must the regulars feel about it!!!!
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I struggle to believe that someone who can't even walk somehow bested the guys who ride the bike weekly having never been on the bike. He just can't possibly be THAT much better. Something is up.
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I struggle to believe that someone who can't even walk somehow bested the guys who ride the bike weekly having never been on the bike. He just can't possibly be THAT much better. Something is up.
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Let's not forget, he loves the Brno circuit...and has raced there many...many...MANY times.

Still...pretty gawd amazing that he ripped off those lap times on a sbk WITH a broken leg!

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I struggle to believe that someone who can't even walk somehow bested the guys who ride the bike weekly having never been on the bike. He just can't possibly be THAT much better. Something is up.
I'm not buying that conspiracy theory; here's why.

There are cameramen all over the track, there are spectators around, and the whold Yamaha SBK crew there. If they were fudging numbers someone would out them in a hurry.

I think if his lap times were not within the realm of the top rider's lap times, the news release/ reporting would simply leave that part out of the story or say something like, "while Rossi's lap times were respectable, they were a bit off the pace for the top tier riders of the class..." or something like that. Been done before.

To me, this is a case of incredible otherworldly talent. That said, I think Elbowz could probably duplicate the effort on the SBK R1
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I'm not buying that conspiracy theory; here's why.

There are cameramen all over the track, there are spectators around, and the whold Yamaha SBK crew there. If they were fudging numbers someone would out them in a hurry.

I think if his lap times were not within the realm of the top rider's lap times, the news release/ reporting would simply leave that part out of the story or say something like, "while Rossi's lap times were respectable, they were a bit off the pace for the top tier riders of the class..." or something like that. Been done before.

To me, this is a case of incredible otherworldly talent. That said, I think Elbowz could probably duplicate the effort on the SBK R1
I'm not suggesting they fudged the lap times, necessarily. There's plenty of other things that could be fudged as well: tires, suspension, engine. I just can't believe that someone who needs crutches to get on the bike is able to crack off better times than some of the best riders in the world, on similar hardware, that he's never ridden before. Its just too spectacular to be true.
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Perhaps his leg isn't as bad as we were led to believe?
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I'm not suggesting they fudged the lap times, necessarily. There's plenty of other things that could be fudged as well: tires, suspension, engine. I just can't believe that someone who needs crutches to get on the bike is able to crack off better times than some of the best riders in the world, on similar hardware, that he's never ridden before. Its just too spectacular to be true.
Maybe, just maybe is natural talent combined with seat time and focus. Who knows, yet I do believe the results are true.
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Perhaps his leg isn't as bad as we were led to believe?
That might be all that it is. It would make sense. Take away any one factor and this is a whole lot more believable.
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I think he was on the Pirellis, but I do think the crutches were a distracting factor however. Anyone who can support themselves on a motorcycle at those speeds has to have enough strength to walk without support methinks. I gotcha on that point
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I think he was on the Pirellis, but I do think the crutches were a distracting factor however. Anyone who can support themselves on a motorcycle at those speeds has to have enough strength to walk without support methinks. I gotcha on that point
I have to respectfully disagree, look at the feats of Mick Doohan, Yukio Kagayama, James Whitham, Lorenzo to name a few.
Awful injuries and yet once on the bike able to produce incredible times!

Now don't ask me how they are able to do that but they do.

We know the nature of Rossi's injury, no one heals THAT quickly
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I have to respectfully disagree, look at the feats of Mick Doohan, Yukio Kagayama, James Whitham, Lorenzo to name a few.
Awful injuries and yet once on the bike able to produce incredible times!

Now don't ask me how they are able to do that but they do.

We know the nature of Rossi's injury, no one heals THAT quickly
Conceded...

Don't forget about Mr Roboto Mighty Mouse Pedrosa when he was buggered up...

Let's go back to the Superman theory then
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I have to respectfully disagree, look at the feats of Mick Doohan, Yukio Kagayama, James Whitham, Lorenzo to name a few.
Awful injuries and yet once on the bike able to produce incredible times!

Now don't ask me how they are able to do that but they do.

We know the nature of Rossi's injury, no one heals THAT quickly
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I don't know...something tells me Yamaha wouldn't be down for Rossi to take some "joy laps" around both Misano and Brno unless they knew his leg wasn't as bad as we think it is; at the same time...Rossi is one brave motherfawker...but he's not stupid.

I'm not saying his leg isn't broken or completely jacked up...maybe it's just not bothering him like we think it would.

Still...broken leg or not...the fact that he ripped out those lap times on a sbk, better than any WSBK rider, is simply amazing...even at a track he's very familiar with.
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So how does him turning those lap times, solo on the track (assuming) compare to the race lap times that were quoted in the article?
I'm impressed, don't get me wrong, but are we comparing apples to apples?
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So how does him turning those lap times, solo on the track (assuming) compare to the race lap times that were quoted in the article?
I'm impressed, don't get me wrong, but are we comparing apples to apples?

your right
if he'd have had someone to chase, say Ben on the R1 he'd have gone even quicker imo
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