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Old 07-06-2010, 11:41 PM   #1
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Assen: MotoGP vs WSBK

I saw this on Crash.net. I know direct comparisons aren't fair here but still interesting.

Saturday's Dutch TT at Assen marked the first time that the prototype MotoGP World Championship has raced on the same track as the production World Superbike Championship in 2010.

Here are the fastest race laps for each manufacturer in each championship at Assen. The Dutch WSBK round took place on April 25.

Yamaha
MotoGP: YZR-M1 1m 34.626s (Lorenzo)
WSBK YZF-R1 1m 36.472s (Toseland)
Difference: 1.846s

Honda
MotoGP: RC212V 1m 34.525s (Pedrosa)
WSBK CBR1000RR 1m 36.312s (Rea)
Difference: 1.787s

Ducati
MotoGP: Desmosedici GP10 1m 34.761s (Stoner)
WSBK 1198R 1m 36.413s (Checa)
Difference: 1.652s

Suzuki
MotoGP: GSV-R 1m 36.219s (Capirossi)
WSBK 1198R1m 36.452s (Haslam)
Difference: 0.233s

Others:

BMW
WSBK: S1000RR 1m 36.373s (Corser)

Aprilia
WSBK: RSV4 1m 36.450s (Camier)

Kawasaki
WSBK: ZX-10R 1m 37.189s (Sykes)



Here is a similar comparison from 2008. Also from Crash.net

Assen (MotoGP: June, WSBK: April)
Fastest '08 MotoGP lap: Casey Stoner (Ducati) 1min 36.738secs
Fastest '08 WSBK lap: Max Neukirchner (Suzuki) 1min 39.395secs
Slowest '08 MotoGP lap: Marco Melandri (Ducati) 1min 38.676secs
Difference fastest WSBK/fastest MotoGP: +2.657secs
Difference slowest MotoGP/fastest WSBK: +0.719secs
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:48 PM   #2
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another interesting point is the progress made in 2 yrs. Even the WSBK kawi would have been laping respectably with the GP bikes of 2 yrs ago!
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what's quite obvious is that the Suzuki MotoGP bike/rider combination is sadly lacking!
less than quarter of a second between them!!
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what's quite obvious is that the Suzuki MotoGP bike/rider combination is sadly lacking!
less than quarter of a second between them!!
suzuki has never seemed to give a about GPs.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:01 PM   #5
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I'd like to see a Lorenzo, Pedrosa or Stoner, etc, on a WSBK bike and see what they could get out of it once dialed-in.

I'd never really given much time to compare the two series' lap times and 1.5 to 2 seconds is a lot of time at these levels, but considering the amount of development/$$$ that goes into the MotoGP bikes, one might think the gap would be a little larger? I'm sure one of the Top 5 MotoGP riders could eek a little more out of a WSBK bike to boot.

Just goes to show how solid the WSBK platforms are in the right hands... and looks like we'll get the chance!

Well, sort of. Rossi is still banged-up.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100707a.htm
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^^^^ You could compare Spies times in the WSBK R1 and the Tech 3 bike.
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^^^^ You could compare Spies times in the WSBK R1 and the Tech 3 bike.
You couldn't Irak, the track layout at assen for 2010 is slightly changed!
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one more thing to consider is the tires. Remember that they also control how much power can be put down.
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It would appear the gap has been shrinking more and more over the years.
It would be hard to guess what the biggest contributing factor to this is with all the variables out there.
Maybe it has something to do with the production bikes becoming more focused track bikes rather than sporting road bikes over the last few years.

What ever the case, it's crazy to imagine a production based superbike being only a half a lap or less behind a million dollar exotic gp machine after a 22 lap race.
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You couldn't Irak, the track layout at assen for 2010 is slightly changed!
We'll have to wait until Valencia then.
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