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Old 07-03-2006, 03:59 AM   #41
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after lots wife was turned into a pillar of salt told lots two daughters to get lot drunk and sleep with him to bear his children. this used to be legal and not a sin in the old testament but not now.

also if you remember the scripture eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth there had to be two witnesses to the crime.

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THOU SHALL NOT KILL


IT DOESN'T SAY THOU SHALL NOT KILL BUT.........OR UNLESS


SCHOOLS CLOSED.

also side note the death penalty is a perfect sentence the system and the people that run it are not perfect so how in the world can a perfect sentence be handed down through a broken and impefect system???
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One objection to capital punishment is that the government is itself committing murder. Put in theological terms, doesn't the death penalty violate the sixth commandment, which teaches "Thou shalt not kill?"
First, we must understand the context of this verse. The verb used in Exodus 20:13 is best translated "to murder." It is used 49 times in the Old Testament, and it is always used to describe premeditated murder. It is never used of animals, , angels, or enemies in battle. So the commandment is not teaching that all killing is wrong; it is teaching that murder is wrong.

Second, the penalty for breaking the commandment was death (Ex.21:12; Num. 35:16-21). We can conclude therefore that when the government took the life of a murderer, the government was not itself guilty of murder. Opponents of capital punishment who accuse the government of committing murder by implementing the death penalty fail to see the irony of using Exodus 20 to define murder but ignoring Exodus 21, which specifically teaches that government is to punish the murderer.


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also if you remember the scripture eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth there had to be two witnesses to the crime.

also side note the death penalty is a perfect sentence the system and the people that run it are not perfect so how in the world can a perfect sentence be handed down through a broken and impefect system???
You cant just pick and choose the parts of the scripture you choose to follow. If you take the "Thou shalt not kill" part verbatim, you cant just toss out the part where it tells you its the governments job to punish those who violate it's and 's Law. Which should be the same but a lot of the times they are not.
Jesus fully supported obeyance of the laws of man. His only concern always was and continues to be their Souls, and obeyance of the Commandments from .
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Thou shalt not kill." That is a short commandment, but rich in content and precious in intent.
This commandment does not refer to the life of plants, insects or animals. There are fanatics who declare that we may not kill animals, not even unclean and harmful insects, and then appeal to this sixth commandment. But the Hebrew word here translated "kill" is used only when killing people is spoken of, never when the killing of animals is meant.
Neither does this commandment forbid a lawful killing.
There is murder which Himself commands. See Genesis 9:6, where the Lord says "Whoso sheddeth blood, by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of made He man." Judges commit a great sin when they permit the wilful murderer and slayer to live.
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Lawful killing also includes killing in a lawful war. A lawful war is a war waged to protect the true religion, to preserve liberty and to defend our country. In Deuteronomy 7 commands Israel to destroy the Canaanites without mercy or pardon, and in 1 Samuel 15 the Lord gives the same command concerning Amalek. Also in the New Testament the lawful war is not forbidden. In Luke 3:14 John the Baptist tells the soldiers how to conduct themselves, but he does not say they may not be soldiers. In Matthew 8 we read that the Lord praises the faith of the centurion, but not that He forbade him to be a soldier. In Acts 10:33-48 we can read that the Holy Spirit descended upon people who carried weapons, upon Cornelius, the centurion, and his friends.
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Lawful killing also includes killing in self-defense.

The Lord says (Ex. 22:2) "If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him." Hence, if a robber, thief or murderer, attacks you, it is no sin if you kill him in self-defense.
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ok so why does the executioner have the right to kill??? because he filled out an application and got the job??? so now he has the right to be the so called "punisher"??? i mean i have no idea about religion but like my g/f said murder is pre-meditated well bush pre-meditated before he declared war??? is that right??? i mean that is the "government"??? i just dont think that everyone who says they are fully christian really understands that there pretty much isnt such a thing i guess.....
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ok so why does the executioner have the right to kill??? because he filled out an application and got the job??? so now he has the right to be the so called "punisher"??? i mean i have no idea about religion but like my g/f said murder is pre-meditated well bush pre-meditated before he declared war??? is that right??? i mean that is the "government"??? i just dont think that everyone who says they are fully christian really understands that there pretty much isnt such a thing i guess.....
The executioner is carrying out a job delegated to him. He holds no responsibilty for his action. Much like a Soldier following orders. As long as the orders are not against the laws laid down. What does Bush and the war have to do with Capital Punishment?
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it doesnt yall were about religion... and if it is murder to pre-meditate nad killl what is war..... here this what it is....... ok this isnt doing what we want so i am going to bomb the f*ck out of him and this is legal because bush is the man right???
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