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Old 07-01-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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My Integra is my baby, Its like my child. I have invested alot into my Integra, and one thing I dont fu*k around with is the safety and security of my baby. You all know that the integra is the #1 stolen car in america. Its one of the easiest and almost obvious solutions to that. I came up with the idea and installed it on a few of my friends cars, I dont have one of these in my car (because its built into my clifford alarm stystem ) but to those of you that dont want to pay for expensive security solutions, here you go. I installed one on my friends integra, and when it was stolen a few months later, guess what saved it...
Things youll need:
a cell phone that you dont use, that supports Digital and Analog (most new phones)
the ESN or HEX number from the back of the phone
a cigarette lighter charger for your phone
wire (12ga works best)
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a good phone battery
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New cell phones have the ability for the network to track the location of cell phones for "911" calls. This data is transfered through the digital network of the wireless carrier. This can easily be changed in your phones menu settings.


(Example phone: LG VX6000)
Step 1: On your phone, Go to the menu, select settings, select location, there should be menu that says "E911" and "Location On", select "Location On" or something similar. This displays Latitude, Longitude and Altitude of the location of the phone to andbody that requests it. This can be accesed even if your phone is not activated.

Step 2: Go through your phone and change any settings that would turn off or put your phone into sleep mode.

Step 3: Find a spot in or under your car where your charger can reach, that it would most likely not be seen.

Step 4: Find a 12 volt power source, this must me a power source that is always on (with the battery in obviously). The back of your cigarette ligher works the best. I think there are 3 wires, you must connect the wires that are always on. The way you can tell is by testing the wires and making sure they charge the phone when the ignition is off. Once you find the "always on" wires, just splice the wires that are connecting to the lighter jack and run them to where you want to mount the phone

Step 5: Plug the charger into the phone and make sure everything works.

Step 6: Run the charger cables to an area where you can mount the phone. Make sure they are hidden from anybody.

Step 7: Make sure the phone is charging, and if it is, zip tie the charger cord to the phone and put a ziplock bag over it. Then mount the phone in an unseen area.

Step 8: Your Done!


If your car is ever stolen, you have a few options:
1: Call the police and file a legit police report, make sure they know that you have a phone in the car that has GPS abilities, and its setup for that exact reason to recover your car if its ever stolen. Give them your ESN/HEX number, and it can be used LEGALLY by you or any police officer investigating the theft.
2: Call the phone carrier, give them the ESN or HEX from the back of the phone, and get Lat & Long from them. This can be inserted into any GPS or even Google Earth, and you will be able to see the location of the unit.
3: If you are a AAA member or even if you have roadside assistance enabled on your carrier, you can always call them to get the location for... umm... "Roadside Assistance"
4: Call Fugitive finder, 917-295-4425, they will find the phone to the nearest centimeter! They charge a few hundred dollars (may defeat the purpose), but it will save your car.

If whoever steals your car takes your car battery out, (this is where the "good" phone battery comes into play) the phone will stay on standby mode for up to 48 hours. Most phones can stay on standby mode for up to 200 hours depending on the model. The location of the unit can still be broadcast even if its on standby mode.

My friends car was stolen, and this saved his car. They recovered it at a junkyard (the car was barely touched) just 4 hours after it was stolen. The car battery was taken out, but the phone was still on, transmitting information on the location of the car. The funny thing is that when it was stolen, he had his actual cell phone in it. they threw the phone out around the corner, because they diddnt want to be tracked. This definatley works. Its a very inexpensive way to save your baby

Note: This works best with Verizon Wireless phones the best, but most digital phones can do this.

Tools:
Latitude and Longitude to decimal converter
Figitive Finder (917) 295-4425 - They will find your phone >more info


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Old 07-01-2010, 12:15 PM   #2
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awesome.
In this day and age, there should be no reason people are still getting away with thefts soo easily.
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So the phone doesnt have to have service? All you need is the ESN/HEX number off of the phone?
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:13 PM   #6
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my head hurts from reading all that.

its not from reading..your helmet is too small...
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This is a proven method definatly, and if any of you have this happen and need a good handheld to put in the cordinates, I have a Delorme PN-40 that I use for geocaching. It's pretty much top of the line, next to the Garmin 400t.
So basicly I could find a pubic hair if you give me the cords.
Anyhow, I'd be more than happy to assist anyone in finding their vehicle.

Free of charge as long as you promise you'll let me record it on video I wanna put something like this on youtube.
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So the phone doesnt have to have service? All you need is the ESN/HEX number off of the phone?
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if anyone tries this let us know how hard was it to fix on a bike..
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thats awsome ! i pop the hood and take the coil wire with me, it has different ends than the plug wires too, so they can't use one of those. car/truck wont start ! its real easy !
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or if it has coils for every cyclinder just unplug the right thing and ur good !
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If Im not going drive my car for a while I pull a fuse out. Good luck trying to start it.
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I remove one of the tires and steering wheel and bring them with me.
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Sounds like a good idea. But how willing are cell carriers to give out that info??
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I have pretty much the same setup on my bike. I always leave a phone in the bike when I park it.
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according to my wife who works for att you cant get that kind of info without a court order. and even then the phone has to be on activated and being used.. to much bs for me.. ill go lo jack.
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