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Old 07-01-2010, 09:32 AM   #21
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might want to check your valves too!!!! Most big 4 strokes get harder to start when the valves are out of spec
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:53 AM   #22
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Its all about finding the TDC mark, once you get a feel for it you will get it every time. Push starting is almost a sure bet if you can get enough speed, then just jump on, shift into second and shift all weight to rear and release clutch at same time, but you really should get the kickstart down, PRACTICE!
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:54 AM   #23
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Its all about finding the TDC mark, once you get a feel for it you will get it every time. Push starting is almost a sure bet if you can get enough speed, then just jump on, shift into second and shift all weight to rear and release clutch at same time, but you really should get the kickstart down, PRACTICE!
This sounds like a sure fire way to scare the out of yourself with a wheelie.
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:56 AM   #24
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maybe u should tighten the spark plug like we did with mr d's little bike. haha
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Compression release in, kick over three times, release lever, pressure on kick start until TDC, compression release in, move lever like 1/2 inch, release both allow kickstart lever to return upright, and then kick through smoothly.


No throttle at all.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:18 PM   #26
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when I was 10 years old and all of 80 pounds my dad told me I could ride the 81 XL500 if I could kick it. I think it took me till I was 11 but I got that !

All the good advice has been given just wanted to share that.

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Wear MX boots... the hard sole will more efficiently transfer the power from leg to lever.

And put your left foot on something tall, like an egg crate or tree root or side of a hill...
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:11 PM   #28
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Wear MX boots... the hard sole will more efficiently transfer the power from leg to lever.

And put your left foot on something tall, like an egg crate or tree root or side of a hill...
Or you could jump off the roof of the house...
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So did you get it figured out????
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another tip is to hold the front brake tight, it will help keep you from giving it any throttle
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alright, so i did jsut about everyhting that is listed.....kicked on it for a while and finally got it over....no choke cause i could smell gas and i thought it may be flooded, its idleing cold with no choke!? let it sit and warm for a minute, give it alittel gas and it dies, kick it about 3-4 more times and same thing, did this 4 times and it finally would take alittle throttle then just die....it was getting closer and closer i guess but finally gave up cause no leg strength left to kick it and tore my boot and foot on peg
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im seriously about to just trade the thing for a 2stroke or a 4wheeler, its me off that bad
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:59 PM   #33
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i was gonna try and push start it but im too outta shape lol
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:32 PM   #34
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Sorry I didn't swing by today bro, rain was rough all day and we were swamped with errands. I'll be on that side of town all day Saturday though.
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when I had my ttr I would jump in the air and land on the kickstart with all my weight sum times but thats when I would lay it over, it shouldnt be that hard check your everythings
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alright, so i did jsut about everyhting that is listed.....kicked on it for a while and finally got it over....no choke cause i could smell gas and i thought it may be flooded, its idleing cold with no choke!? let it sit and warm for a minute, give it alittel gas and it dies, kick it about 3-4 more times and same thing, did this 4 times and it finally would take alittle throttle then just die....it was getting closer and closer i guess but finally gave up cause no leg strength left to kick it and tore my boot and foot on peg
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:40 AM   #39
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It's a 2 stroke habit to give the bike gas while trying to start it. Only give the bike gas after the bike starts and is running.

+1 to what everone else has said. Some 4 strokes are more of a pain than others. Once you find that sweet spot it will get easier and easier.
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so i can get it over now by holing my fence and just donkey kicking the outta it, no throttle but its still wanting to do the high rev and any gas once its started kills it.....just had the carb cleaned monday
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