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Old 06-19-2010, 10:14 AM   #41
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every one of those people need to do some track days stop thinking you are on a race track geez louise
Most of these guys are good track and road riders. Whats great about Sunday Rider group is, THEY WELCOME EVERYONE! NOOB's and experienced riders are welcome. The fast more spirited riders always wait for the slower new ones. Good guys, good rides!

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Old 06-19-2010, 10:45 AM   #42
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Perfect starter bike.
Gotta look "cool" in front of everyone else.

And people flamed when I got a 650r as my first 600cc instead of a 600 supersport.Sorry guys I know it comes with a banana seat and higher handlebars but atleast im not learning to ride the hard way laying in the weeds.
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Sorry the guy went down. However I can say that I just got a YZF600r, as my first bike in years. I am still relearning a lot of stuff, and I can openly admit that the 600 is too fast. It may even be too fast for the street period. Beginners should get 250 sport bikes and that is that. Knowing that in a mater of seconds I can be well over 80mph is scary. It takes a very small twist of the wrist. I also know that the YZF600r is one of the slower 600s, I can't imagine what a new 600 must ride like.
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Great start on it up for everyone else who rides on that road. Cops already hate all the bikers on that road, this isn't going to do anyone any favors. If this is the usual crowd that's out there on Sunday I'm not surprised.



Sorry to the new guy that got in over his head, but this is always what happens.. I too was a part of rides like this in the past, but hey.. Live and learn


Hopefully the guy will try to up his skill some before something really bad happens..
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the threads are new to them
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Sorry the guy went down. However I can say that I just got a YZF600r, as my first bike in years. I am still relearning a lot of stuff, and I can openly admit that the 600 is too fast. It may even be too fast for the street period. Beginners should get 250 sport bikes and that is that. Knowing that in a mater of seconds I can be well over 80mph is scary. It takes a very small twist of the wrist. I also know that the YZF600r is one of the slower 600s, I can't imagine what a new 600 must ride like.
To each his own... and while I'm no expert rider...

My very first bike was a new 600 SS... then, after a whopping 2500 miles and 3 months of experience, I traded up to a new 1000 SS... and I've never crashed on the street (track, well... thats a different story)

HOWEVER, I did start riding at age 27. MAYBE some of these noob crashes can be somewhat attributed to younger/less mature riders?
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gotta love new guys bringing old threads back
This thread is only a couple months old. Don't act like resurrected a thread from 05.
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To each his own... and while I'm no expert rider...

My very first bike was a new 600 SS... then, after a whopping 2500 miles and 3 months of experience, I traded up to a new 1000 SS... and I've never crashed on the street (track, well... thats a different story)

HOWEVER, I did start riding at age 27. MAYBE some of these noob crashes can be somewhat attributed to younger/less mature riders?
I'm not downing on you personally, but please understand this is a perfect example (overall) as to how these accidents CAND/DO happen so frequently.

A new rider, with experience in months,to be counted on one hand... yet have allready upgraded to one of the most powerful classes of bikes.(when the previous bike was FINE, if not allready enough to handle) Whatever reasons for the upgrade, are probably ill conceived. I can assure you, the reasons are NOT due to ...

- Bike mastery.
- "im a heavy guy, and the 600 SS lacked soo much power!"
- insurance being cheaper
- parts/labor is less
- economical ride, compared to a prior bike
- said rider is allready an ace at the track

Again, dont take it personally, (im not perfect either ) just this type of thing is a very common way new riders get killed. I wish you (ALL new riders) many years of safe riding, while going this route
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I'm not downing on you personally, but please understand this is a perfect example (overall) as to how these accidents CAND/DO happen so frequently.

A new rider, with experience in months,to be counted on one hand... yet have allready upgraded to one of the most powerful classes of bikes.(when the previous bike was FINE, if not allready enough to handle) Whatever reasons for the upgrade, are probably ill conceived. I can assure you, the reasons are NOT due to ...

- Bike mastery.
- "im a heavy guy, and the 600 SS lacked soo much power!"
- insurance being cheaper
- parts/labor is less
- economical ride, compared to a prior bike
- said rider is allready an ace at the track

Again, dont take it personally, (im not perfect either ) just this type of thing is a very common way new riders get killed. I wish you (ALL new riders) many years of safe riding, while going this route
I'm sure I'll crash on the street at some point, but it won't be because I was on a 600 or a 1000 or a 1400 or whatever... it will be my own fault for riding outside my abilities and/or riding like an idiot or getting hit by someone.

Take a look at Texas' accident form... among the many contributing factors that you can choose from are things like "Fail Control Speed"... there are none that say "Crash due to SS machine" or "Crash due to liter bike".
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My first trackday was after about 6 months of riding experience and I did it on a new CBR1000RR. A new rider, new to the track, on a new 1000...

I know my (low) limits, and I (typically) ride well within them... its kept me safe so far.
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AGAIN... I started riding at age 27. MAYBE some of these noob crashes can be somewhat attributed to younger and/or less mature riders?
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Take a look at Texas' accident form... among the many contributing factors that you can choose from are things like "Fail Control Speed"... there are none that say "Crash due to SS machine" or "Crash due to liter bike".
Well of course they wouldn't list specific causes of the accident because there are many contributing factors to which accidents occur. Another reason is because those reasons (and many others) can't always be proven as the sole reason of why the accident occurred and would render the report inaccurate.
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What I can add, SundayRider I have the upmost respect for w his other regulars and the rides they offer on their side of town. I know the prep/time/patience that has to go into working w groups. I also know there will always be criticism and to endure that w a constant smile is a measure of good character. Not to shy away from the members/non members that contribute as much as he w the ride organization, I apologize for not knowing specifically the names of others; Ive had more convo w SR then others. The groups of riders make the ride, not just one person.

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