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Old 06-28-2006, 09:03 AM   #1
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Israeli forces cut water, power in Gaza By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer
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Israel kept up the pressure on Palestinian militants to release a captive Israeli soldier Wednesday, sending its warplanes to bomb a Hamas training camp after knocking out electricity and water supplies for most of the 1.3 million residents of the Gaza Strip.

Palestinians dug in behind walls and embankments, preparing for a major strike after Israel sent in troops and tanks, and bombarded bridges and a power station.

At mid-afternoon, warplanes fired missiles at open fields in northern Gaza in an effort to prevent Palestinians from launching rockets from the area, the military said. Separately, Israel attacked a rocket-making factory in southern Gaza.

No casualties were reported.

Later, Israeli aircraft struck a training camp of the Hamas militant group in Rafah, witnesses said. The army had no immediate comment.

It was Israel's first ground offensive since pulling its soldiers and settlers out of Gaza last summer. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel would not balk at "extreme action" to bring Cpl. Gilad Shalit, 19, home but did not intend to reoccupy Gaza.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas deplored the incursion as a "crime against humanity," and a leading Hamas politician issued a call to arms against the Israeli troops.

Meanwhile, concerns about the fate of a missing West Bank settler grew after militants claiming to hold him displayed what they said was a copy of his identification card.

Israeli tanks and soldiers began taking up positions east of Rafah overnight under cover of tank shells, witnesses and Palestinian security officials said. Capt. Jacob Dallal, a military spokesman, said troops moved a mile inside the coastal strip.

Israeli warplanes fired at least nine missiles at Gaza's only power station, cutting electricity to 65 percent of the Gaza Strip, engineers at the station said. The station's three functioning turbines and a gasoline reservoir were engulfed in flames.

Wasfi Kabha, the Palestinian minister of prisoner affairs in the Hamas, said that the Israeli attacks were creating a "humanitarian crisis."

"They hit the bridges, they hit the power station, so there will be a problem in water supply and health services," he told the British Broadcasting Corp.

The Israeli military said in a statement that three bridges were attacked "to impair the ability of the terrorists to transfer the kidnapped soldier." Knocking down the bridges cut Gaza in two, Palestinian security officials said.

Witnesses reported heavy artillery shelling near the long-closed Gaza airport outside of Rafah, just over the border with Israel. In Rafah, a shack where militants produced and stored rockets was on fire after Israel attacked it, witnesses said.

Warplanes, meanwhile, flew low over the strip, rocking it with sonic booms and shattering windows. And troops in Israel backed up the assault, firing artillery into Gaza.

"We won't hesitate to carry out extreme action to bring Gilad back to his family," Olmert said. "All the military activity that started overnight will continue in the coming days."

"We do not intend to reoccupy Gaza. We have one objective, and that is to bring Gilad home."

Olmert repeated that Israel will not negotiate Shalit's release with militant groups.

Shalit was taken captive Sunday during an attack on a southern Israeli military post by militants affiliated with the Palestinians' ruling Hamas party. The Palestinian government has called for the soldier's release, but Israel believes the group's Syria-based leaders ordered the operation.

Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon said Hamas's Syria-based political chief, Khaled Mashaal, was "not immune" from Israeli reprisal.

"Khaled Mashaal, as someone who is overseeing, actually commanding the terror acts, is definitely a target," Ramon, an Olmert confidant, told Army Radio. The station interpreted his comments as meaning Mashaal was a target for assassination.

Ramon told Israel Radio in a separate interview that he believed diplomacy had run its course.

Abbas deplored the Israeli invasion in a statement.

"The president considers the aggression that targeted the civilian infrastructures to be collective punishment and a crime against humanity," the statement said.

Abbas, it added, urged the U.S. and international Mideast negotiators to intervene to halt the operation.

An aide said Abbas called Syrian President Bashar Assad to ask him to persuade Mashaal to free the soldier. Assad promised to do so, the aide said on condition of anonymity because he was discussing private talks.

Deputy Prime Minister Nasser Shaer of Hamas said his government, too, was trying to resolve the situation diplomatically, but he would not say whether that involved direct contact with Israel.

"We call for an immediate halt to the invasion, and urge that the soldier's life be spared," Shaer said.

Residents of northern Gaza, preparing for what they feared could be a long military operation, stocked up on food, batteries for radios and candles.

But the normally bustling streets in southern Gaza, where the invasion was launched, were eerily deserted, with people taking refuge inside their homes.

The Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt Gaza's main link to the outside world has been closed since Sunday's attack. Usually, there is some activity in the area, even when the passage is closed, but Wednesday it was empty.

Israeli troops, backed by tanks, took over the Gaza airport. Dozens of people living near the airport left their homes, seeking sanctuary in nearby Rafah.

A small grocery near the airport was open, but no one was inside except the owner, 45-year-old Allah Abu Jazr.

"All options are open, but let's hope this crisis will pass," Abu Jazr said. "We want the soldier to return home, just as we want our prisoners to come home."

Militants said they fired rockets early Wednesday at the Israeli village of Nahal Oz, the Israeli forces' staging area, and at other Israeli targets.

Dallal said the army was prepared for a long operation, and "everything is on the table."

The militants who seized Shalit have demanded the release of hundreds of Palestinian women and children held in Israeli jails in exchange for information about the captured soldier.

Trying to defuse building tensions, negotiators from the ruling Hamas movement said Tuesday they had accepted a document that Abbas allies say implicitly recognizes Israel. But Mashaal's No. 2, Moussa Abu Marzouk, denied a final deal had been reached.

Shalit's abduction Sunday by Hamas' military wing and two other Hamas-linked groups has threatened to turn already devastated relations between Israel and the Hamas-led government into all-out war. Hamas took over the Palestinian Authority after winning parliamentary elections in January, and has been under international pressure to renounce violence and recognize Israel.

Complicating matters was a new claim by the Hamas-linked Popular Resistance Committees, one of the three groups that carried out Sunday's assault, that it had also kidnapped a Jewish settler, 18-year-old Eliahu Asheri, in the West Bank.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the report was being taken "very seriously."

At a news conference at a Gaza City mosque on Wednesday, PRC militants displayed what they said was a copy of Asheri's identification card, and reiterated threats to kill him if Israel did not end its Gaza invasion.

A spokesman for the group also warned that the PRC had just begun its campaign to seize soldiers.

"The operation of kidnapping soldiers has started and is in a countdown," spokesman Mohammed Abdel Al said.
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BOTH ISRAEL AND PALESTINE ARE TERRORISTS. PERIOD.
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BOTH ISRAEL AND PALESTINE ARE TERRORISTS. PERIOD.
Except only one of those targets innocent civilians.
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Except only one of those targets innocent civilians.
except u listen to a biased media, and except u trust them willingly without using ur own brain.

there is a book called EXODUS. read that up... u will learn how Israel was created, what were Palestinians supposed to get, whta they got, and how they were ousted from their own land..just 50 years back!
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except u listen to a biased media, and except u trust them willingly without using ur own brain.

there is a book called EXODUS. read that up... u will learn how Israel was created, what were Palestinians supposed to get, whta they got, and how they were ousted from their own land..just 50 years back!
Show me an example of the Isrealis attacking the Palestinians or Hezbollah from the roofs of civilian buildings or using human shields in any other form and I'll read your book.

BTW, I know how Israel was created and we can't do anything about England's Imperial actions after WWI.

Edit: I'm not in an argumentative mood today, but honestly tell me what Israel should do when several of their neighbors openly call for their destruction.

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BOTH ISRAEL AND PALESTINE ARE TERRORISTS. PERIOD.
So we should support the guys that are killing our people in the middle east? Seems to me that you should pick your friends more carefully, and know who your enemies are more clearly.

I'd rather much deal with Israel as an ally than the filthy throat cutters.

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I think we (the USA) should stay out of it. The people in that region have been fighting each other for thousands of years. It'll never end.
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I think we (the USA) should stay out of it. The people in that region have been fighting each other for thousands of years. It'll never end.
Ditto! But the USA has always supported Isreal behind the scenes,and it always will!
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I think we (the USA) should stay out of it. The people in that region have been fighting each other for thousands of years. It'll never end.
Impossible at this point. Time to be realistic.
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or a giant glass sculpture.


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It is unfortunate... I am a very passive person when it comes to war. I was against us ever going in because I was not being lead blindly by a biased media but, we do have to accept that we are in it and have screwed things up royaly. This has allowed all kinds of uprise to occur. So, what are we supposed to do?
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Impossible at this point.
And why is that?
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Show me an example of the Isrealis attacking the Palestinians or Hezbollah from the roofs of civilian buildings or using human shields in any other form and I'll read your book.

BTW, I know how Israel was created and we can't do anything about England's Imperial actions after WWI.

Edit: I'm not in an argumentative mood today, but honestly tell me what Israel should do when several of their neighbors openly call for their destruction.
u think ONLY terrorists die when Israel fires a missile at hezbollah? if u thought so, then read:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/23/perry.tyre/

and now dont call it a one off incident.. actually, this is just a sample.

and only Israel knows what it should do, all i know is that ANY INNOCENT person killed KNOWINGLY, on ANY side, is terrorism.



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So we should support the guys that are killing our people in the middle east?
do u think supporting and no supporting r the only two options?
here is a lil story for u:
Teacher: Why are no swiss people killed in middle-east

Little JOhnny: Thats is so teacher, cos they mind their own business and dont get messed up in somebody else's affairs.

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:icon_bigg but yes sir, that is definitely an option.

and Moody, if u may, can we plz make it an indoor, a/c golf resort..its a lil hot there u c:icon_smil
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And why is that?
Think of the additional uprise if we pulled out and left the country and entire area in shambles. Not a good idea at this point in my opinion but, of course none of it ever was. :eh:
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Think of the additional uprise if we pulled out and left the country and entire area in shambles. Not a good idea at this point in my opinion but, of course none of it ever was. :eh:
I think you're referring to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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