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Old 05-17-2010, 09:52 PM   #1
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Thumbs up A vintage answer to the Ben 'Elbowz' Spies lean craze

A vintage answer to the Ben 'Elbowz' Spies lean craze, courtesy of Jean Philippe Ruggia

Jean Philippe Ruggia, 1988, Coppice at Donington Park, Sonauto-Yamaha 250. This is elbow lean action.
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There was a previous blog entry of Ben Spies and his elbow grazing the tarmac onboard the M1 Yamaha, I admit it is impressive but I find myself admiring the horizontal angles that Ruggia submitted his 250 Yamaha to, with the above image taken at Coppice as a prime example.

Riding a 250 Yamaha in 1988, J.P Ruggia finished seventh overall that year with a best place finish of third at the Spanish GP in Jarama. At the Donington round that year he crossed the line in sixth place.

He did take his first victory in the the 250 class a few years later at Donington Park in 1993. In the history of the 250's J.P is arguably one of the most entertaining riders from the late 80/early 90's era.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:00 PM   #2
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I think he was just trying to tuck under that corner workers beer gut.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:18 AM   #5
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Is that corner worker sitting on a rock? That is some funny right there.

+1 on the lean angle... wow
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Is that corner worker sitting on a rock? That is some funny right there.

+1 on the lean angle... wow
is looks like he is sitting on several lbs of maryjahunah
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Eh. I honestly wouldn't want to lean that much.....less tire.....less traction.....

However, I can't honestly sit here and question their riding position because they're lightyears ahead of my slow , so when you're going as fast as these guys.....sometimes you can't avoid that much lean angle.

Awesome picture! Haven't seen that one in a good while.
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Is that corner worker sitting on a rock? That is some funny right there.
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No those are hay bales wrapped in plastic to keep the rain and moisture out!! tis England
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No those are hay bales wrapped in plastic to keep the rain and moisture out!! tis England
ha I'll be damned it is hay wrapped in plastic I had to take a second look but pretty obvious... didn't expect that for sure, but glad it wasn't large rocks that would be just crazy
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Eh. I honestly wouldn't want to lean that much.....less tire.....less traction.....
Todays tires are designed to have more rubber contact when leaned over than when on center.

Whenever I get a new bike, I always go thru a ritual to satisfy my own curiousity.

First, set the suspension up for your weight.
Air the tires up to 36 (just for this test)
Get a buddy to help that can support your bike
Tie wrap the front brake lever, put it in gear as well.. this keeps the bike from rolling

Now, lean the bike over on it's side until the pegs or bodywork touch. Study how much if any tire you have left
Do the same for the other side.

File that info away for future instant reference when you touch something down.

Now granted, the ride height of the bike will change mid corner, but odds are it will be lower, meaning you'll have more tire left than during the "test"

Todays SS bikes can handle some incredible lean angle. Which is why nine times out of 10 if you run wide, you could have just turned the bike more and made it.

And so far as draggin elbows... long arms, chest on the tank, head out leading the fairings.. and you can do it pretty easily. Your elbows just naturally are gonna stick out there...
Sitting upright, with head more to centerline, not gonna happen.
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