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Old 05-05-2010, 09:45 AM   #141
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:45 AM   #142
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I though SBN's were all about causing trouble?
That's not trouble, that's just being a annoying tard.
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Well let's see...I believe we are still waiting for you to provide the 'current' ordinance as the most 'recent'
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also to the officer,
since u feel quite strongly on enforcing the noise ordinance, can do you anything about the neighbors mowing their lawns, while i'm trying to sleep? you say that loud motorcycles diminish the quality of life to the people that have to listen to it, but what about my quality of life while i'm trying to get some rest?

just after some quick research, a lawn mowers sound levels average 90 db. a motorcycle slip on averages around 100db i believe. the website the other board member posted shows a legal limit of 65 db. although both devices are way over the legal limit, the motorcycle is usually just a brief fleeting moment that goes by. on the other hand, the neighbors lawn mower is outside my window for 10-20 min at a time, depending on which part of the yard he's working in. On top of that, he may even use a leaf blower which is probably over the legal limit as well....

please enlighten me...
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it didnt have the label stamped on the can?

that is wierd then every bike i have owned has a label on the exhaust.(stamped)
I just went outside and looked at my 09 CBR1000RR and can't find any markings on the exhaust.
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annoying tard.
aaaah HI! (you wouldnt beleive this..but i am officially known as "annoying tard"... no ! just ask SHIMANO GIRL) so I HAVE to step in on the call out :P

This is where I step in I do it all the time not saying its right, but if i see them and they dont see me (and they are on the phone)

-ringa-ding-ding engine revs,
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- with universal "hang up the phone " hand signal..
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Seriously! Let us get back on-topic.

With the statistics I posted above, you just call me an idiot for not knowing anything.

You still have not answered why EMERGENCY vehicles have sirens that can disrupt the health of citizens.

So, let me ask you this question, because I want to hear this directly from you. You seem to dance around my questions for some reason.

Out of the February 2010 statistics I posted, which of those led to the arrest of an suspect by YOU that was initially stopped by YOU for a noise-abatement violation of a motorcycle?

I am willing to bet that number will be zero.

I find it strange that the residents of your district are more concerned with you controlling noise-abatement rather than attempt to halt all the crimes in your area.

Also, when did police get the authority to visit vehicles on private property -- in a parking-lot as you suggested -- and begin writing citations for noise-abatement of vehicles without stock exhaust?
FWIW, the reason emergency vehicles have sirens is according to law, regardless of what lights or pretty decals the vehicle has, it is not classified as an emergency vehicle on the roadway unless it is equipped with a siren.


That said...

The siren serves a valuable purpose, it is there to alert drivers on the roadway to move and yield the right of way to a emergency vehicle. Sirens aren't used to look cool or sound cool or to get a drivers attention to get off their cell phone, they are used when necessary to allow emergency personnel to get to their destination when serious risk to person or property exists.

And one last note, and I dunno if the LEO in question is or isn't, but many departments have designated officers for traffic enforcement, if that's this officer's job, then that's his job. His job might not be to run around and catch murderers and rapists and thieves.
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I just went outside and looked at my 09 CBR1000RR and can't find any markings on the exhaust.
in a lot of cases its on the backside/bottom side so you cant see it.

some are heavily stamped, others are very very faint. and it depends if the can is flat/satin black, or shiny chrome.

SHOULD be there. every exhaust OEM is supposed to have it (at least on street bikes that I am aware of, if not more versions) but yes said officer is correct. EPA emmisions on frame (or motor?) and exhaust.

but laws change, so I could be wrong as of now.

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in a lot of cases its on the backside/bottom side so you cant see it.

some are heavily stamped, others are very very faint. and it depends if the can is flat/satin black, or shiny chrome.

SHOULD be there. every exhaust OEM is supposed to have it (at least on street bikes that I am aware of, if not more versions) but yes said officer is correct. EPA emmisions on frame (or motor?) and exhaust.

but laws change, so I could be wrong as of now.
I think my bike dosn't have it...I wil llook. I just remember that you can't buy them in california because Kawasaki didn't put some EPA number on it (at least withthe 07-08 ones.
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in a lot of cases its on the backside/bottom side so you cant see it.

some are heavily stamped, others are very very faint. and it depends if the can is flat/satin black, or shiny chrome.

SHOULD be there. every exhaust OEM is supposed to have it (at least on street bikes that I am aware of, if not more versions) but yes said officer is correct. EPA emmisions on frame (or motor?) and exhaust.

but laws change, so I could be wrong as of now.
It once had a label on the swingarm But there's no marking on the exterior of the exhaust that's visible through any normal inspection. I'm going to check one more time
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As of September 23, 2009

1) To be operated within the ____________ an on-highway motorcycle must:
a) Comply with the U.S. EPA sound emissions requirements for onhighway
motorcycles in 40CFR205, subparts D or E; or
b) Measure no more than 92 dBA using the Idle Test; or
c) Measure no more than 96 dBA using the Set RPM Test or Swept RPM
Test for any engine configuration other than a 3- or 4-cylinder engine; or
d) Measure no more than 100 dBA using the Set RPM Test or Swept RPM
Test for any 3- or 4-cylinder engine configuration.
SO what is the legal DBA?
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Assault is against the law. Ever hear of the US Constitution and freedom of speech?
Ah - now see, this is where I just LOVE to step in.

The First Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits GOVERNMENT from prosecuting you because of simple speech.

What it does not do is give J. Random a free pass to say whatever he likes with no private consequences. Like it or not, the concept of "fighting words" is well established in both the US code and Texas code.

In short, say whatever you want without fear of government prosecution, but be prepared to get your kicked if you antagonize someone in public.
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I think my bike dosn't have it...I wil llook. I just remember that you can't buy them in california because Kawasaki didn't put some EPA number on it (at least withthe 07-08 ones.
that makes sense.

again, I coudl easily be wrong.. my bike has all the info on the frame ,and can on exhaust..

but I am also riding a 15 year old bike... so "i" may be a little out of jurisdiction today :P

by all means I will admit i am wrong if things have changed
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I think my bike dosn't have it...I wil llook. I just remember that you can't buy them in california because Kawasaki didn't put some EPA number on it (at least withthe 07-08 ones.
nope, I was wrong...they wern't available in Cali bacause they didn't have a charcoal canister in the exaust

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/GetAwardPdf.aspx?id=45

read 2nd to last paragraph.
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OK, there is something stamped on the exhaust but I can't read it because it's facing the swingarm and there's no way you could get close enough if the exhaust was hot.
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I guess at least he had the to get on here and explain what he does. If you dont agree with his way of doing things call him in at IAD. It isnt that hard to do, and file a complaint.

If and when I get stopped I just hire an attorney and let them fight the ticket. This officer is just another number in court. He even said it that courts are to over crowded so how many trials in a day you think they can have ?? not many at all, and I would bet depending on the type of ticket it will get dismissed. It is the system, just deal with it and move on.
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also to the officer,
since u feel quite strongly on enforcing the noise ordinance, can do you anything about the neighbors mowing their lawns, while i'm trying to sleep? you say that loud motorcycles diminish the quality of life to the people that have to listen to it, but what about my quality of life while i'm trying to get some rest?

just after some quick research, a lawn mowers sound levels average 90 db. a motorcycle slip on averages around 100db i believe. the website the other board member posted shows a legal limit of 65 db. although both devices are way over the legal limit, the motorcycle is usually just a brief fleeting moment that goes by. on the other hand, the neighbors lawn mower is outside my window for 10-20 min at a time, depending on which part of the yard he's working in. On top of that, he may even use a leaf blower which is probably over the legal limit as well....

please enlighten me...
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The Bill of Rights and the Constitution in is entirety guarantees you the right to privacy and security in your home and in your automobile as the living document has been adjusted via precedent. Your loud and unreasonable exhaust permeates my home, rattles my windows, awakens me from my sleep, affects human physiology in harmful ways..(simply read the numerous studies on the subject)...your loud pipes violate the citizens rights within my beat...your self-righteous and discourteous behavior is, for all intensive purposes, criminal and must be addressed.

Houston's current ordinance and the Texas Transportation Code 547.604 are too weak in their current format. Like some other States and Municipalities, loud exhaust violation convictions should be moving violations, with a subsequent violation used as probable cause to tow the offending vehicle. Texas needs to adopt the label match up program.

Mark my words: the day will come when riding loud and driving loud will be as socially unacceptable as smoking is in a public venue is today...and you guys are doing it to yourselves via your lack of personal responsibility. Rick HPD
what about the lawn mower that permeates my home and awakes me from my sleep?

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In short, say whatever you want without fear of government prosecution, but be prepared to get your kicked if you antagonize someone in public.
Yea, and be prepared for a civil lawsuit. The person being antagonized, unless you physically restrain or corner them, can always walk away
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