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Old 04-30-2010, 11:41 AM   #1
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if they had any real grounds to get rid of him, they would have........

want attention w/ loud pipes, you got it....lol
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if they had any real grounds to get rid of him, they would have........

want attention w/ loud pipes, you got it....lol
Loud pipes saves lives...

It allows people in cars -- that are not paying attention -- to know something is next to them.
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It allows people in cars -- that are not paying attention -- to know something is next to them.
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Too funny, on several occasions, I have been side-by-side with a driver -- and they still pull into my lane. If I had loud pipes, I would like to think they would know someone was there via sound -- since they are apparantly BLIND already.

So, good luck with learning to ride...
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Too funny, on several occasions, I have been side-by-side with a driver -- and they still pull into my lane. If I had loud pipes, I would like to think they would know someone was there via sound -- since they are apparantly BLIND already.

So, good luck with learning to ride...
here's the learning part, don't ride side by side to cars.......... get in ft or stay behind.
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Indian Mike contacted his Sergeant and he agreed the officer is way out of line and they have been trying to remove him from the force for along time.
I almost have to call BS on a sergeant telling some random citizen this about another officer. Like Racer X said, if the guy was breaking policies, he'd be reprimanded and eventually fired. Cops can write tickets all day long, it's the courts job to determine whether they are correct or not.
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Loud pipes do help. While I dont like my parent's harleys, nor do I ever want one, when they are around you, you know it and start looking for where the sound comes from. I wonder if he picks on only sport bikes?
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here's the learning part, don't ride side by side to cars.......... get in ft or stay behind.
Good luck with that in Houston bumper-to-bumper traffic. Perhaps, you only ride in parking lots?
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I almost have to call BS on a sergeant telling some random citizen this about another officer. Like Racer X said, if the guy was breaking policies, he'd be reprimanded and eventually fired. Cops can write tickets all day long, it's the courts job to determine whether they are correct or not.
That and I have a hard time taking anyone named "Mitzi" seriously
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Just from a google, and off a blog so there no telling how vaild this is:
Maybe Mitzi is right...

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Message date Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Those of you familiar with my ongoing battle with a particular supervisor regarding the validity of Houston's City Ordnance 30-4 "Noisy Vehicles Generally" will be pleased to hear that City Legal has returned a verdict of "enforceable.” I was subsequently called into my Captains office and told that I was permitted to resume enforcing the noise ordinance as it relates to loud exhaust on motorcycles and automobiles. The earlier order to stop enforcement due to perceived subjectivity issues has been overturned. Those members who have an abiding faith in our Lord Jesus Christ pray that I will enforce the current noise ordinance with wisdom and discernment. Thanks to those who took the time to write the letters and make the phone calls.

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lol, commuted my whole riding career, thru the galleria and then down 290 for that fact..........so your point?
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Just from a google, and off a blog so there no telling how vaild this is:
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http://journeltheconstituent.blogspo...d48268486c7e5d

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Those of you familiar with my ongoing battle with a particular supervisor regarding the validity of Houston's City Ordnance 30-4 "Noisy Vehicles Generally" will be pleased to hear that City Legal has returned a verdict of "enforceable. I was subsequently called into my Captains office and told that I was permitted to resume enforcing the noise ordinance as it relates to loud exhaust on motorcycles and automobiles. The earlier order to stop enforcement due to perceived subjectivity issues has been overturned. Those members who have an abiding faith in our Lord Jesus Christ pray that I will enforce the current noise ordinance with wisdom and discernment. Thanks to those who took the time to write the letters and make the phone calls.

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I had loud pipes on my Z and I still had people pulling into my lane. It may make a small difference in cars knowing your there but I know learning to be aware makes a bigger difference in keeping myself alive.
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lol, commuted my whole riding career, thru the galleria and then down 290 for that fact..........so your point?
My point is, you have multiple senses that you utilize to discern things. Visual and audio cues are two of those. If the visual cue is not working -- because someone is too lazy to look -- hopefully, the audible cue kicks in to remind them something strange it next to them.
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I had loud pipes on my Z and I still had people pulling into my lane. It may make a small difference in cars knowing your there but I know learning to be aware makes a bigger difference in keeping myself alive.
...but it is a difference that some people will recongize. To say that it has absolutely no effect is ludicrous.

It is the same as people that wear brightly-colored clothing while riding. If no one is looking, the brightness of your clothing does not matter. If someone IS looking, that brightly colored clothing might have helped save your life.

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