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Old 04-24-2010, 01:47 AM   #1
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Respol synthetic oil + 2006 R6 = clutch slippage?

Hey guys,

Well I finally changed the oil on my 2006 r6 to fully synthetic 10W-40 Repsol brand.

I've noticed right after I changed my oil my clutch slips like crazy!!!
I was at a stop and couldn't get it past 3rd gear!! I tried taking off in 4th gear and ended up stalling at a light. Also when I used regular non synthetic oil my shifter would not move in first gear. Now if I'm in first I can step down on it and have it move up and down.

I figured out that if I revved the tach up it would allow me to downshift through each gear, at every stop. No embellishment or overexaggeration here, literally.

Now I'm still relatively new and not knowledgeable as I want to be. So my question is does it take a while for synthetic to break in? Once the oil gets a bit dirty will the massive slippage stop? Has anyone else had this problem after changing to synthetic oil? Would it be okay to revert back to non synthetic?

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I believe Repsol is motorcycle affiliated..... Repsol Honda O.o
I also purchased it at a motorcycle store, so I'm going to assume yes.
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sounds like you have shifting issue, not a clutch slipping issue. If you cant change gears thats not your clutch slipping. Check your clutch cable play

your problem has nothing to do with oil.


take it somewhere to get it looked at, unless you have a friend that can look at it for you.
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Sorry, I have not had that problem. My shifts appeared to be smoother when I switched to synthetic.
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If I pull up to a stoplight and don't down shift as i'm slowing down, say I'm stopped in sixth I'll have to kinda ease the clutch in and out a lil to get it to shift down. As far as I'm aware this is normal. Is it slipping as your accelerating?
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If I pull up to a stoplight and don't down shift as i'm slowing down, say I'm stopped in sixth I'll have to kinda ease the clutch in and out a lil to get it to shift down. As far as I'm aware this is normal. Is it slipping as your accelerating?
Hmmm...this happens to me, as well. Somtimes, if I am at a stop, and I want to bring the bike into first, I generally put a little pressure on the foot-shifter while slowly easing out on the clutch handle, and it will slip into first. I assumed that was normal behavior.
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Hmmm...this happens to me, as well. Somtimes, if I am at a stop, and I want to bring the bike into first, I generally put a little pressure on the foot-shifter while slowly easing out on the clutch handle, and it will slip into first. I assumed that was normal behavior.
Yep exactly what I was trying to explain
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Hmmm...this happens to me, as well. Somtimes, if I am at a stop, and I want to bring the bike into first, I generally put a little pressure on the foot-shifter while slowly easing out on the clutch handle, and it will slip into first. I assumed that was normal behavior.
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Well thanks for the reply guys. I've never had this problem before switching to full synthetic, hence my reasoning for directly correlating the two.

So I took my bike to motorcycles unlimited and Patrick recommended reverting back to regular oil. This worked like a charm, I was able to down shift without any problems, also when in first gear there wasn't any play when I pressed down.

Just before I got home it started slipping again, I think this is because there are still traces of synthetic oil present.

Anyways thanks for all your help guys, appreciate it!
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Out of curiosisty how many miles does the bike had when you went synthetic?
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Normal, my r6 when i first got it could be parked just sitting there and i could go up and down all the gears over and over as I broke in the bike it wouldn't click all the way then got down to where i just move the bike forward or back to shift or let up the clutch a little.
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My bike has around 3k miles on it.

Could be problematic when you have to brake real hard then re-accelerate. Or fast straights then slowing down for that turn *which has happened >:o[

It may be normal while at a stop light, but not during high speeds. I'll ask other 06-07 R6 riders then take it to Katy Yamaha and see what they say.

I'll gladly post my results/data afterwards. Thx everyone
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I have been running synthetic for 20,000+ miles on the 06 R6. No slippage issues or shifting problems. I have run repsol and mobil 1.

Did you buy the repsol that was specifically for a wet clutch? Just because it is repsol does not mean it is the right stuff.
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I have been running synthetic for 20,000+ miles on the 06 R6. No slippage issues or shifting problems. I have run repsol and mobil 1.

Did you buy the repsol that was specifically for a wet clutch? Just because it is repsol does not mean it is the right stuff.



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I have been running synthetic for 20,000+ miles on the 06 R6. No slippage issues or shifting problems. I have run repsol and mobil 1.

Did you buy the repsol that was specifically for a wet clutch? Just because it is repsol does not mean it is the right stuff.
and if it were dry clutch motorcycle oil, i'd go back to teh place you bought it from and get a refund. since the person who sold it to you shoulda keyed in on the rarity of dry clutches.
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i put synthetic in my bike only once and the thing hated it. shifted like . put conventional in back in it and it shifted smooth as butter.
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I have been running synthetic for 20,000+ miles on the 06 R6. No slippage issues or shifting problems. I have run repsol and mobil 1.

Did you buy the repsol that was specifically for a wet clutch? Just because it is repsol does not mean it is the right stuff.
Yes the oil said it is safe to use on wet clutches.

I'll take the bike apart and check the shifter today.
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