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Old 04-19-2010, 02:31 PM   #61
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and yeah, that plain clothes cop definitely has a guilty look snd hides his pistol with a quickness when he sees the marked unit.
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That is some crazy chit, I think I woulda myself if that happened
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lol I love how people get so heated in issues that deal with the police so let me play devil's advocate here

Ok first its Maryland people their laws are different than ours, so trying to compare what happened on the video to what would happen here is kinda difficult.

Second like most amateur video its been edited, shortened per say. The rider (shown on the video) was speeding, riding reckless. We only see the perspective of the rider as he is being pulled over. We don't see him look over and see the unmarked car try and "flag him down" (Unless the officer equipped his car with strobes) We don't know how long he was being followed before stopping. There is a marked patrol car in part of the video so what if it was there at the beginning of the incident and this rider wasn't pulling over? There is a lot of unknowns to deal with before passing judgment.

What if the situation is this, there is a biker riding reckless, isn't stopping for police and finally pulls over with a marked patrol car behind, and an unmarked (or possibly off duty trooper) pulls in front. The officer see the bike backing up, fearing that the rider is about to bail again, draws down on him. A motorcycle can be a weapon if it is used to run someone over, so he was within his right to draw his weapon.

Last he got arrested for illegal audio recording cause he posted it all on the internet.

Now from a cops point of view, SPECIALLY in Texas, you make sure that bright shiny badge is visible before branding a firearm. Thats week one of the academy stuff.
The wiretapping 'law' is a federal law, not a state/local law... and it's under this which most people are being charged with.

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In fact, Maryland requires there to be an expectation of privacy in order to make that charge valid, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

State courts interpreted laws to protect communications only when parties have a reasonable expectation of privacy
In short, they are attempting to claim that a leo, in operation of their duty is 'private' and not 'public'. Be it a raid, traffic stop etc.. that it is a 'private' matter and not public and by recording it, the person doing the recording is illegally recording it.

He posted is on you-tube, not 'all over the internet'...bit of a difference there.
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I think y'all should check the DPS traffic law site.

a wheelie will typically draw a class B misdemeanor reckless driving charge.

there is NO threshold of speed for constitution of reckless driving. 25 over does not automatically make for a reckless driving charge. reckless driving is a judgment made by the arresting officer or prosecutor's office. you can actually be going UNDER the speed limit and get a reckless charge.
I'm not disputing what you have said but, if you could post a link for that it would be helpful.
I spoke with a Brazoria County Sheriff when I first heard about the change and he confirmed it and said, " It is a jailable offense. If I saw you doing a wheelie I would take you to jail".
I said, "Even if I was on some empty back road and you saw me do a little wheelie just for fun"?
He responded, "The law doesn't make distinctions about the size of the wheelie, you would go to jail".

I realize he could have been mistaken or was just saying that to discourage me (someone he doesn't know) from being irresponsible but he did confirm that it was a felony and a jailable offense.
I will try to research this later but if you can provide more info on your claim it would help.
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He was speeding. Everything he has coming he deserves. Isn't that the general consensus around these parts? You speed you deserve a ticket, be charged with a felony or even die?
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25 over can be construed as reckless as well.


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I think y'all should check the DPS traffic law site.

a wheelie will typically draw a class B misdemeanor (but it can also be ramped up to a felony) it reckless driving charge.

there is NO threshold of speed for constitution of reckless driving. 25 over does not automatically make for a reckless driving charge. reckless driving is a judgment made by the arresting officer or prosecutor's office. you can actually be going UNDER the speed limit and get a reckless charge.
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It's ok. Racer X doesn't like factual information or providing sources for the things he says is fact. So...no surprise there.
um yeah, rojer basically says what i said, and even concluded that you can be given a wreckless charge for less then 25 over, and still be taken to jail.

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He was speeding. Everything he has coming he deserves. Isn't that the general consensus around these parts? You speed you deserve a ticket, be charged with a felony or even die?
Why you let the voices of like 2 people effect how you view the ENTIRE site cracks me up....
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wait, is it affect or effect??? brain fart...lol
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Sounds like he took a bad situation and made it worse by trying to clown the cops...the cops found a way to use what he was doing against him and here we are. I agree the cop was out of line not identifying himself immediately and even pulling the gun. I also think the guy should have paid a little more attention to state law before trying to punk the cops!

I'm just glad that we don't have these same laws so we don't have to worry about these same charges...sadly we can't say that the same thing won't happen b/c we all know that this can happen anywhere!
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Cop rolls out of the car "Its go time!"...oh , he took 3 steps backwards.. draw on that !... get off the motorcycle... get off the motorcycle...get off the motorcycle... oh fck.. forgot to ID myself... State Police.... <marked car probably rolls up>

LOL you can see the street clothes trooper's eyes when he sees the marked cop car... "oh ..ok.. ok..be cool.. be cool... turn to shield my unholstered pistol... walk in front of bike to shield my holstering of my unholstered pistol... OK...perp has shielded me from uniformed cop.. now put my hand on my pistol like i'm just being "prepared"....YES! got away with it... I'm superbad!

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Here's the reckless driving statute. Every wheelie arrest I've ever heard of has brought this charge.

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I HAD TO WATCH IT ONE MORE TIME for a good laugh to end my work day....

the non-blurred version is SO MUCH BETTER...look @ the cop when he realizes the marked trooper is there too....he's like OH !


just noticed homeboy linked the "good" video....my bad.

If you read the "report" he mentions the motorcyclist revving his engine...I didn't hear any engine reving @ the time of the stop.

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There is no provision in the Transportation Code for reckless endangerment. Though, I guess if that's a felony charge that it would be in a different code.

You'll have to show ME that one, lol. - just ONE instance of someone being charged with a felony/reckless endangerment for pulling a wheelie.

I know PLENTY of people who have gotten the Class B misdemeanor reckless driving charge for a wheelie - but have never heard of ANYONE getting a felony charge.

Only way I can see a felony is if there were mitigating circumstances - causing injury/racing/drunk/third strike etc.
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What about the guy who made the video last year of the dps officer remix. Felony?
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Why you let the voices of like 2 people effect how you view the ENTIRE site cracks me up....
Dude..it is against the law (a felony) to record, audibly, a police officer without their consent or knowledge or whatever. Its a felony. He should suck it up and take it on the chin. .. I can't ever win. I dont understand...so WHEN does someone deserve what they've got coming? I'm really confused.

Do they deserve it when it IS a law? Do they deserve it when it isnt a law but should be a law? Do they always deserve it? Wait...do they never deserve it?

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Dude..it is against the law (a felony) to record, audibly, a police officer without their consent or knowledge or whatever. Its a felony. He should suck it up and take it on the chin. .. I can't ever win. I dont understand...so WHEN does someone deserve what they've got coming? I'm really confused.

Do they deserve it when it IS a law? Do they deserve it when it isnt a law but should be a law? Do they always deserve it? Wait...do they never deserve it?
whatever....dude probably searched "all over the net" every single day between day #1 and when it was posted b/c he later realized his actions were caught on film....THAT is when he became concerned about being recorded. So, you wheelie on the street....you haul on the backroads...when stopped, you expect to have a gun drawn on you? The camera recording is the least of his concern....I'm sure a gun being drawn for a traffic stop in an unmarked car carries more concern than...OMG, I need to turn off my camera.
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I've had a gun drawn on me on two different speeding stops. One I was let go with a warning, other I was arrested for reckless driving. In neither case was the gun-draw warranted.
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