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Old 04-19-2010, 12:52 PM   #41
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Its all a tactic to make him drop the against the cops. They will ask him to drop the case and they will as well.
There seems to be some faulty logic in that... presuming so, it would have made more sense to send a acease/desist rather than search/sieze/arrest...

particularly if we consider that driving charges added after the fact & detail in the video vs the 'report'.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:53 PM   #42
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Cop felt threatened when he began to back the bike up, WTF!!!!
An off duty LEO never should have been involved in pulling the bike over unless he had committed a felony and was a danger to the community.
popppin wheelies and high speeds on the frwy are felonies......

there's another vid of his earlier activities, the one's that got him noticed.
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I hear it isn't the camera that was the issue, it was the audio recording.

anyway, I would have been tempted to gas it and at least try and get out of the situation. How am I supposed to know the guy is a cop? Looks like a crazy guy with a gun to me.
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more of Marylands LEO's

I know all are not like this, but jeeze

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I know all are not like this, but jeeze

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popppin wheelies and high speeds on the frwy are felonies......

there's another vid of his earlier activities, the one's that got him noticed.
Excessive speed. It's not a felony, but is a class 3 misdemeanor punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a fine. Wheelies are simply a moving violation and constitute reckless driving, unless you run, then of course you looking at a few felonies.
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Excessive speed. It's not a felony, but is a class 3 misdemeanor punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a fine. Wheelies are simply a moving violation and constitute reckless driving, unless you run, then of course you looking at a few felonies.
I beg to differ. I could be wrong (but I'm not) the law in Texas was changed a few years ago and a wheelie is now considered "Reckless Endangerment" which can be a felony.
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I beg to differ. I could be wrong (but I'm not) the law in Texas was changed a few years ago and a wheelie is now considered "Reckless Endangerment" which can be a felony.
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lol I love how people get so heated in issues that deal with the police so let me play devil's advocate here

Ok first its Maryland people their laws are different than ours, so trying to compare what happened on the video to what would happen here is kinda difficult.

Second like most amateur video its been edited, shortened per say. The rider (shown on the video) was speeding, riding reckless. We only see the perspective of the rider as he is being pulled over. We don't see him look over and see the unmarked car try and "flag him down" (Unless the officer equipped his car with strobes) We don't know how long he was being followed before stopping. There is a marked patrol car in part of the video so what if it was there at the beginning of the incident and this rider wasn't pulling over? There is a lot of unknowns to deal with before passing judgment.

What if the situation is this, there is a biker riding reckless, isn't stopping for police and finally pulls over with a marked patrol car behind, and an unmarked (or possibly off duty trooper) pulls in front. The officer see the bike backing up, fearing that the rider is about to bail again, draws down on him. A motorcycle can be a weapon if it is used to run someone over, so he was within his right to draw his weapon.

Last he got arrested for illegal audio recording cause he posted it all on the internet.

Now from a cops point of view, SPECIALLY in Texas, you make sure that bright shiny badge is visible before branding a firearm. Thats week one of the academy stuff.
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lol I love how people get so heated in issues that deal with the police so let me play devil's advocate here

Ok first its Maryland people their laws are different than ours, so trying to compare what happened on the video to what would happen here is kinda difficult.

Second like most amateur video its been edited, shortened per say. The rider (shown on the video) was speeding, riding reckless. We only see the perspective of the rider as he is being pulled over. We don't see him look over and see the unmarked car try and "flag him down" (Unless the officer equipped his car with strobes) We don't know how long he was being followed before stopping. There is a marked patrol car in part of the video so what if it was there at the beginning of the incident and this rider wasn't pulling over? There is a lot of unknowns to deal with before passing judgment.

What if the situation is this, there is a biker riding reckless, isn't stopping for police and finally pulls over with a marked patrol car behind, and an unmarked (or possibly off duty trooper) pulls in front. The officer see the bike backing up, fearing that the rider is about to bail again, draws down on him. A motorcycle can be a weapon if it is used to run someone over, so he was within his right to draw his weapon.

Last he got arrested for illegal audio recording cause he posted it all on the internet.

Now from a cops point of view, SPECIALLY in Texas, you make sure that bright shiny badge is visible before branding a firearm. Thats week one of the academy stuff.
Stop making sense. It takes all the fun out of cop bashing.
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so does that mean a cop can't record the conversation between you and him/her during a traffic stop without them letting you know that you are being recorded audioly (sp?) ?
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Didnt the video show a marked car behind the rider?
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lol I love how people get so heated in issues that deal with the police so let me play devil's advocate here

Ok first its Maryland people their laws are different than ours, so trying to compare what happened on the video to what would happen here is kinda difficult.

Second like most amateur video its been edited, shortened per say. The rider (shown on the video) was speeding, riding reckless. We only see the perspective of the rider as he is being pulled over. We don't see him look over and see the unmarked car try and "flag him down" (Unless the officer equipped his car with strobes) We don't know how long he was being followed before stopping. There is a marked patrol car in part of the video so what if it was there at the beginning of the incident and this rider wasn't pulling over? There is a lot of unknowns to deal with before passing judgment.

What if the situation is this, there is a biker riding reckless, isn't stopping for police and finally pulls over with a marked patrol car behind, and an unmarked (or possibly off duty trooper) pulls in front. The officer see the bike backing up, fearing that the rider is about to bail again, draws down on him. A motorcycle can be a weapon if it is used to run someone over, so he was within his right to draw his weapon.

Last he got arrested for illegal audio recording cause he posted it all on the internet.

Now from a cops point of view, SPECIALLY in Texas, you make sure that bright shiny badge is visible before branding a firearm. Thats week one of the academy stuff.
that POS cop produced his firearm without a reason....notice he puts that up real quick when he sees another on the scene....I highly doubt this cops Chevy Malibu was railing along next to this guy as he was pulling 80 mph wheelies. Then he gets a warrant 10 days AFTER b/c he was caught on video...in the wrong. Dude knows he was out of line and got caught on camera. I bet he's counting his lucky stars that he didn't aim that gun @ the rider.

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What if the situation is this, there is a biker riding reckless, isn't stopping for police and finally pulls over with a marked patrol car behind, and an unmarked (or possibly off duty trooper) pulls in front. The officer see the bike backing up, fearing that the rider is about to bail again, draws down on him. A motorcycle can be a weapon if it is used to run someone over, so he was within his right to draw his weapon.
sure thats plausible, but this isnt the case.

check out the 2 videos, and the link showing the warrant..the only thing "constant" is the video. the warrant goes against what the video provides. in the areas it does match, the info doesnt matter, since it pretty much verifiable from the video.

quite litterally the gopro saved his . youtube got him introuble, but the gopro shows what happened. (compared to the officers "warrant")

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25 over can be construed as reckless as well.
I think y'all should check the DPS traffic law site.

a wheelie will typically draw a class B misdemeanor reckless driving charge.

there is NO threshold of speed for constitution of reckless driving. 25 over does not automatically make for a reckless driving charge. reckless driving is a judgment made by the arresting officer or prosecutor's office. you can actually be going UNDER the speed limit and get a reckless charge.
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