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Old 04-12-2010, 10:43 AM   #1
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Riding with known medical conditions?

So, I pose this question to you guys....if you have a pre-existing medical condition...do you still ride?

Yesterday I came up on a gentleman and his lady friend who were sitting roadside somewhat near my home. She was on the cell phone, he sat on the bike....I was like WTF? This guy should move down to a parking lot or something before he gets hit. I offer to help him out (gas, call someone, give a ride...something!), but he insists that he is okay. Come to find out he had a pacemaker and it went off while he was riding (with a passenger on back). So, more or less, this guy just had a mild heart attack of some sort. He's worried about his bike (needing it towed) and his g/f was worried about getting him to the hospital. Needless to say I offered to ride this dudes badass all black hardbag HD to his home while he and his lady drove in my truck in front of me. Talk about this guy trusting some young punk to ride his 25k dollar HD. I sure hope it all ended okay for him, but it got me thinking. If I had a known condition, I don't think I'd ride...the risk just isn't worth it my opinion....especially with a passenger on the back.

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Old 04-12-2010, 10:44 AM   #2
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yeah u would, i know i would. as as it sounds he knows his days are numbered.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:55 AM   #4
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yeah u would, i know i would. as as it sounds he knows his days are numbered.
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I wouldnt do it with a passenger for sure. But if you didnt have anyone depending on you and you wanted to still enjoy your life, definetly would be riding. YOu cant live in fear, but you have to weigh your options.

Joe that f'in sucks bro, didnt realize you couldnt ride anymore. If that Z50 needs a new home let me know
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YEAH, but to put your life @ risk? Let alone a passenger? We all know the dangers (but most are controllable...this is not).

If I was subject to heart attacks....I'd quit riding. Running into someone and risking their lives and yours just wouldn't be worth it IMO.
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i broke my neck and was almost paralyzed but i still ride, although, with heart conditions or something else that would suddenly impair my abily to operate a bike i would have to call it quits
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I have a bad heart.. have had 4 heart attacks, 5 stents in place an maybe soon a transplant patient, it could blow out any minute, I have emphysema and scared lungs from a vapor release at the plant i worked at, I am worth more dead on the bike than in my yard, I will ride till i die, might not ride that far anymore, but I still ride, I never take passengers on the bike and have a do not resuscitate more than once in my living will.. Busa riders never quit, we just fade away...
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he did have a pacemaker. normally, with that in place, you are not going to pass out and crash the bike so i'ld say he was in a condition to ride.

now if he did not have a pacemaker in place, thaat would be another case but paemakers are put in to jumpstart your heart if it decides to slow dow or take a break.

i would not say he was putting his girlfriend's life in anymore risk than any one of us with a passenger does.
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You put your life at risk no matter what kind of condition you're in when you get on your bike.

I suppose you wouldn't drive a car either?

nope, I did not state or say that....

we all know the associated risks, I just feel that if I KNEW I was prone to having a heart attack in the middle of a ride, I'd reconsider...not only for my safety, but the others around me.
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he did have a pacemaker. normally, with that in place, you are not going to pass out and crash the bike so i'ld say he was in a condition to ride.

now if he did not have a pacemaker in place, thaat would be another case but paemakers are put in to jumpstart your heart if it decides to slow dow or take a break.

i would not say he was putting his girlfriend's life in anymore risk than any one of us with a passenger does.
I did not know this....then again, I've never had a PM nor known anyone who had one in place. I will say that he stopped abruptly on the side of the road...without going another 500 feet to the gas station parking lot b/c he was in no shape to ride.
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I have a blood Clotting issue where I clot to much. When I am on blood thinners I do not ride because even a minor fall could cause me to bleed out.

I am not currently on blood thinners but run a risk of getting blood clots if I sit still to long and the leg positioning on sport bikes is not the best thing for me but we move around enough to counteract that.. I know the risk and am ok with that. On longer rides youll see me moving my legs around a lot on the bike and the main reason is to keep blood flow in my legs.

Being on a bike isn't the only high risk thing I can do. Long trips in the car. Long airplane flights... basically anything where I sit still to long. When things like this come up in your life you have a couple of options. My choice is to live my life while at the same time doing what I can to lower my risk. I will not go back on blood thinners unless it is absolutely necessary.
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YEAH, but to put your life @ risk? Let alone a passenger? We all know the dangers (but most are controllable...this is not).

If I was subject to heart attacks....I'd quit riding. Running into someone and risking their lives and yours just wouldn't be worth it IMO.
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I did not know this....then again, I've never had a PM nor known anyone who had one in place. I will say that he stopped abruptly on the side of the road...without going another 500 feet to the gas station parking lot b/c he was in no shape to ride.

actually, if he did not ave a pacemaker on and had a heart attack, he would probably lose control of his bike and hurt himself and his passenger. he could feel unbearable pain, he could lose consciousness,, a lot could happen during a heart attack. a pace maker kicks in and pretty much lkeeps the heart pumping artificially by replicating the natural electrical signals that work the heart.

he probably(not definitely) was able to pull over 50ft from the gas station iinstead of falling 100ft from the gas station because he had a pace maker.

now if his pacemaker failed, thats a whole other issue just like the bike itself could have a mechanical failure.

my point is, there is always a risk and he had somewhat of a control measure in place. it may have not worked right but some i would say its an acceptable risk to ride with some control measure in place.
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