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Old 03-30-2010, 08:31 AM   #1
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Several publications are reporting the possibility that the European Commission (EC) could be preparing to implement a European-wide limit of 100HP on motorcycles when the European executive power meets this summer. The issue arises after France instituted a 100HP ban on new motorcycles, causing the country to be out of line with the rest of European Union. Franceís new law places an undue burden on manufacturers, who must now make a French variant for each new EU motorcycle model (or just not offer the bike in the French market all-together), and as such the EC aims to bring the EU under one policy.

This has created cause for alarm in the industry (or just in sensationalist journalists) who fear that the EC could place 100HP limits across the entire EU, along with other hindering provisions as well (mandatory ABS brakes seems to be the other main concern), in order to bring balance to the Unionís approach on motorcycles. If that sounds ridiculous to you, then youíre in the same boast as us. Considering how the EC and EU directives, regulations, and decisions actually operate, the real likelihood seems to be the possibility of Franceís law being repealed, but that doesnít mean activists have any less cause for alarm.

There are several examples one can pull from for legal precedent where the EC has found a member stateís own regulations to be in conflict with the equal application of trade and commerce within the European Union. These cases should give motorcycle proponents strong ammunition to avoid an EU-wide power limit, and could even override the French statute as a disruption to the free trade that occurs within EU member states.

However the issue at stake is an even larger bone of contention, as high-performance sport bikes ridden by steet hooligans have caused a backlash in Europe. Motorcyclists looking to show off, or who would rather not take it to the track have created attention to high-performance motorcycles, and not in a good way. There is a growing negative sentiment in Europe towards sport bikes, and this French law limiting horsepower is a prime example of that sentiment turning to action.

With all these factors coming into play, there is cause for concern that some EU-level decision to curtail these activities could be handed down, under the guise of making the streets and motorcycling itself safer. Should the EC concur with this general sentiment, changes could be instituted; however we would expect a fight all the way to the European Court of Justice no matter what plan is instituted. While we believe the French law will almost certainly be repealed, it does signal a growing trend that the EC could adopt
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This has created cause for alarm in the industry (or just in sensationalist journalists) who fear that the EC could place 100HP limits across the entire EU, along with other hindering provisions as well (mandatory ABS brakes seems to be the other main concern)
Yea, ABS is not only a hindrance and concern, it's dangerous, unsafe and hazardous to your health
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I'll stick to supermoto. . .1/2 the HP of a SS bike and 4X the fun!!!!
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While not being able to purchase a litre would SUCK, this law accomplishes nothing. You can still have a whole lot of hooligan with only 100hp if you have enough torque.
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I'm trading up to a fiddy, no HP and 1000X the fun
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I'm interested in seeing how this one plays out.

If France bans all bikes that make 100+ HP outright then that would suck.

More likely, they'll enforce a ban that limits bikes to 100 HP - through computer regulation of the motor - which could probably be bypassed with a good tuner.

On the one hand they could say no GSX-R1000s at all.

Or, they could say, you can have a GSX-R1000 but it has to be limited to 100 HP>

Then let the wrenchers go to work.
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LMAO. I can see it now... A busa undertuned to 99hp LOL.
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I don't see what's wrong with the ban. . .The majority of the guys that are actually using the available HP of their bike are probably doing so on a sanctioned racetrack, not on the streets. Could one assume that the number of RIP threads would marginally decrease with a 100HP limit around here? I'm actually a fan of tiered licensing myself. Most of the fast guys i know didn't start out on a 600-1000CC SS bike, they honed their skills on much smaller displacement motorcycles. It's similar to rookie stunters starting out on 50's, they polish their skills on little bikes and transfer them to the big bike. What's wrong with that?
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I don't see what's wrong with the ban. . .The majority of the guys that are actually using the available HP of their bike are probably doing so on a sanctioned racetrack, not on the streets. Could one assume that the number of RIP threads would marginally decrease with a 100HP limit around here? I'm actually a fan of tiered licensing myself. Most of the fast guys i know didn't start out on a 600-1000CC SS bike, they honed their skills on much smaller displacement motorcycles. It's similar to rookie stunters starting out on 50's, they polish their skills on little bikes and transfer them to the big bike. What's wrong with that?
Probably not. Not to many people die from accelerating to fast. They get injured from not being able to turn.
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Probably not. Not to many people die from accelerating to fast. They get injured from not being able to turn.
If top speed decreases do you think the ability to control the motorcycle increases?
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Good point!!!

However, i should state, I'm not too fond of the idea in general. I like speed, HP, and torque just as much(if not more) than the next guy. I try to see all situations from both sides of the coin. . .I'll bet it helps more people than it hinders.
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Good point!!!

However, i should state, I'm not too fond of the idea in general. I like speed, HP, and torque just as much(if not more) than the next guy. I try to see all situations from both sides of the coin. . .I'll bet it helps more people than it hinders.
I'm thinkin' the same thing!
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On another note. . .I bet used 100HP+ motorcycles are going to increase in value.
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