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Old 02-24-2010, 10:45 AM   #1
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Tire warmers question

Looking into getting some tire warmers. I cant affort chicken hawk or suzuka warmers. Cant justify spending that much.

I am looking for a reasonably priced, decent set of warmers that get the job done. I found a couple and was wondering if any of you racers have ever had any experience with these. I am only wanting something that is good enough for a handful of trackdays a season. Cant afford racing right now.

Any suggestions from you guys would be great. I was leaning more toward the SSR

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SSR - slingshot racing
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or these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OFFIC...Q5fMerchandise
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Old 02-24-2010, 11:01 AM   #2
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Might want to contact John at SCRC, he had Suzuka's on sale for not much more not too long ago.
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That SCRC sale is over with. 200.00 shipped for Suzukas was a SMOKIN DEAL!

I PM'd you a link to a good company, for 210.00 shipped, with an 18 month warranty.
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Saw krossworks and suzukas for around 200....spend that!
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Not to threadjack, but how important are tire warmers for a track day? I understand exactly what they do...but are they really needed for trackdays?
They serve 2 purposes for me.

1. They turn a track day into 1 heat cycle instead of 8, which extends the life of the tire.

2. I can hit the track riding hard, the first lap, instead of waiting to get heat in the tires.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:23 PM   #7
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Remember a warmer is a tool. You use that tool to, set your pressures in a "hot" condition. This condition can be replicated over and over again. So you can keep setting your pressures the same. It eliminates a variable when your setting the bike up. You know the tires are the same everytime, so if something changes, you look at the bike first. It keeps everything consistent.

With that said, all warmers are not equal. I have personally seen the Sumomoto and the other china knockoffs, and they do not get hot enough. They top out at about 140-145 deg F. I had a rider cold tearing a tire at MSRH. He said they were "hot". I probed the tire with my pyrometer, and got 142 deg F. I won't say what brand of warmers he was running, but they were not Chicken Hawks or Suzuka. I then put a set of Chicken Hawks on there and let them sit for 25 minutes. I probed the tire and I got 171 deg F. That 30deg made a big difference in pressures and how the tire reacted to the track surface at MSRH. Quality counts, I'd find some used Chicken Hawks before I'd waste my money on the cheap knockoffs.
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One other thing to consider. When they fail they usually quit warming as much. But I have seen them go the other way and melt a hole in a tire. Im sure the replacement cost of the tire negated any savings from going with the off brand.
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I've got some chickenhawks collecting dust. I'll let ya have em for $200 shipped.
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:53 PM   #11
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if you're looking for inexpensive... tyr sox "get the job done"
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I got a set of krossworkz and my bro compared them his Chicken Hawks. He was pretty impressed with their quality. The warmers have a digital controler and 18 months warranty. They are very well made, I like them. However If you like the cash, follow John's advice (he knows tires).

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Do warmers make a big difference on DOT tires?
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Do warmers make a big difference on DOT tires?
Warmers make a difference on any tire. Now, by DOT, I assume your referring to street tires. While street tires are not effected by heat cycles, the warmers still allow you to set your hot pressures which is VERY important. This elminates the guess work of cold pressures. Cold pressures are just a guess.....I usually can get close, but it is a guess. They also give you the confidence that your tires are ready the minute you roll out onto the track.
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Warmers make a difference on any tire. Now, by DOT, I assume your referring to street tires. While street tires are not effected by heat cycles, the warmers still allow you to set your hot pressures which is VERY important. This elminates the guess work of cold pressures. Cold pressures are just a guess.....I usually can get close, but it is a guess. They also give you the confidence that your tires are ready the minute you roll out onto the track.
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Cool, thanks. I'll be running Avon DOT racing tires on a vintage sled soon, just wanted your opinions.
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Warmers make a difference on any tire. Now, by DOT, I assume your referring to street tires. While street tires are not effected by heat cycles, the warmers still allow you to set your hot pressures which is VERY important. This elminates the guess work of cold pressures. Cold pressures are just a guess.....I usually can get close, but it is a guess. They also give you the confidence that your tires are ready the minute you roll out onto the track.
Any opinion on Tyr Sox? Found some on Fleabay new for $200 delivered, since I missed out on a set of used Chickenhawks.

I have seen good comments that they are ok for a trackday user, but slightly difficult to get off and on. I am mainly concerned with proper heating.

I will be using them for the SMR and the Speed Triple. I am hopeful that the size difference won't be a big issue.

Can you also shoot a price on the brand you carry?

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Any opinion on Tyr Sox? Found some on Fleabay new for $200 delivered, since I missed out on a set of used Chickenhawks.

I have seen good comments that they are ok for a trackday user, but slightly difficult to get off and on. I am mainly concerned with proper heating.

I will be using them for the SMR and the Speed Triple. I am hopeful that the size difference won't be a big issue.

Can you also shoot a price on the brand you carry?

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NVM about the TyrSox, I already got some feedback on them, and will pass.
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