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Old 02-21-2010, 08:52 PM   #21
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Who knows, he could be a police-officer on the way home from the job.
I was thinking the same. I have seen a member cop carry like that on a ride.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:28 PM   #22
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I agree completely Im a CHL holder and accidents happen. My 45 has flashed a time or two but thank goodness no one saw. The thing is intentional doesnt need a definition by anyone. If it is seen by someone, meaning not concealed, even if they can print the outline of your gun in your pocket this means you have failed to affectively conceal your weapon and you lose your license. Point being unless homeboy in the pic is a cop someone could easily call it in and he gets hauled away, intentional or not.
While I don't have a CHL I hope that it is not as harsh as you describe. I mean, if you have made a reasonable effort to conceal and it accidently shows, it seems like that would fall under unintentional.
I am hoping that the intent of the law is to ensure that CHL holders are careful to conceal but not so harsh as to punish obvious accidents by revoking the license.

This kinda thing is one reason I have some objections to CHL. My feeling is that granted us the right and obligation to protect ourselves, the Constitution guarantees that right and my lack of criminal behavior should make me a beneficiary of that right.
In other words I shouldn't have to ask permission from the government to carry a weapon, if I choose. It gives them the opportunity to say, no.
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:32 PM   #23
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Thats why alot of people dont waste money on Concealed Lic. I mean they are so strick about it and the penaltys are so harsh if caught with not FULLY concealin a gun or other things that People say F it Ill just go without the Lic. I mean If you fully Conceal a gun where no one can tell its there and its hidden so good that you cant even see a budlge or an outline, you'll pretty much be dead before you can actually get the gun out of its Full HIDING to actually use it.

I mean a guy walks up to you with the intention of jacking you. His gun is in is coat pocket or already behind his back in his hands.....yours is in a holster under you Zip up jacket stashed away so no one can see it.....basically you lose
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shouldn't there be a waist belt like thing on that jacket he could tighten?

My Joe Rocket has one, maybe he just forgot to tighten the velcrow
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It's not always so stashed away that you can't reach it. On my bike or in my car I can carry one on my ankle, one in my riding jacket pocket, one in the front or side inner waistband, and one in the back inner waistband. So any of mine are only a second away. The key is buying a handgun that is designed to be concealed. If you carrying a full size .45 13+1 like mine, then yeah it takes some work to hide, but get a subcompact and it's easily concealed and easily reached. But yes the laws are that strict for chl holders which is . Unfortunately its not just a slap on the wrist, it's considered as "you failed to do what you said you'd do so now you can't do it anymore". That's why I would prefer open carry, yeah alot of people are against it but there are a couple of states that are open carry, no license even, and they have no problems.
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It's not always so stashed away that you can't reach it. On my bike or in my car I can carry one on my ankle, one in my riding jacket pocket, one in the front or side inner waistband, and one in the back inner waistband. So any of mine are only a second away. The key is buying a handgun that is designed to be concealed. If you carrying a full size .45 13+1 like mine, then yeah it takes some work to hide, but get a subcompact and it's easily concealed and easily reached. But yes the laws are that strict for chl holders which is . Unfortunately its not just a slap on the wrist, it's considered as "you failed to do what you said you'd do so now you can't do it anymore". That's why I would prefer open carry, yeah alot of people are against it but there are a couple of states that are open carry, no license even, and they have no problems.


You must have a XD45 like mine i dont really have trouble concealing mine at all anymore just took a little while to find just the right places
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i want to get my CHL... :(
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You must have a XD45 like mine i dont really have trouble concealing mine at all anymore just took a little while to find just the right places
HAHA! Only the best. I'm usually good in back waistband but if I lean over too far it sticks out like a sore thumb. I've been wanting to get a shoulder harness to keep under the ridin jacket. What's your sweet spot?
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:34 PM   #30
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i just finish my class yesterday, good class ,lots of info.
It gives you some education about carrying & the responsilbilty of carry a handgun.
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:40 PM   #31
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i just finish my class yesterday, good class ,lots of info.
It gives you some education about carrying & the responsilbilty of carry a handgun.
It's a very informative class, I liked it. I'm not sure how it is right now but be prepared to wait. I submitted my application in march of 08 and it took 6 months for my license to arrive in the mail. Alot of peeps are puttin in apps right now, the whole democrat in office thing.
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The benefit of having a CHL to me, is being able to carry it legally (on me and concealed) into most places provided there isn't a sign stating that I can't. Without a CHL, you are only covered by the travel law...which only allows you to have it in your car or bike, as long as it is concealed.
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Intentional or unintentional, if it is seen you go to jail and lose your chl. That's why its called concealed handgun license, not concealed and accidently displayed handgun license. When I took my chl class, Ms. Cheryl told us a story of a guy at hooters had his in his waistband behind his back sitting at the bar. They guy turned the wrong way and another customer saw it and called the lawman. Took him to jail and he lost his chl. They are very strict on it being concealed.
Isn't Hooters a 51% establishment? If so, he'd be in far more trouble for carrying (even concealed) in a bar than he would be for *unintentionally* failing to conceal.

Or if he'd knocked back a couple of beers, he'd also be in violation for carrying (even concealed) while intoxicated.
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hopefully , he just forgot to conceal it before riding out.
if he is intentionly displaying his weapon, trouble awaits.
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Isn't Hooters a 51% establishment? If so, he'd be in far more trouble for carrying (even concealed) in a bar than he would be for *unintentionally* failing to conceal.

Or if he'd knocked back a couple of beers, he'd also be in violation for carrying (even concealed) while intoxicated.
Your right but no hooters is not 51%. I always carry in there and have never seen a 51% sign. While they do serve alcohol they are a restaurant not a bar, so they serve more food than alcohol.
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I'm waiting for my chl to arrive , but I think when it does & I'm on my bike , I will use my shoulder holster.
I ride a cruiser & have saddlebags, but I think my shoulder holter will make my pistol more accesableif it is needed .
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