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Old 02-10-2010, 11:39 AM   #1
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Has anybody here gone to the dark side?
I got rear ended this past weekend and i may be able to upgrade my tire. But I do not know how it will affect the handling of the bike or anything.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:49 AM   #2
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By upgrade do you mean go to a bigger tire? If not the only thing that would really change is the road grip and traction.
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tire size holmes. The dark side refers to tires that are 200 or larger
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tire size holmes. The dark side refers to tires that are 200 or larger
Oh, I always thought a bike tire going to "the Dark Side" was putting a car tire on. Then you could get 40K miles as long as your primarily going in a straight line. I have read that a car tire reduces your cornering traction patch and others say that for a high mileage cruising application it is the way to go. Looks quite ridiculous if you've seen it. I think ADVrider.com had a write up about it, or google would help.

Now on big @$$ chopper style rear tires I really don't have much input other than that they look cool on some bikes. Just don't put it on a 600cc RR (yes I know your bike isn't one).
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240 kits on big motor cruisers are NICE.

Totally changes the look of the bike.
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it does, but when you go up to 240, you get pricey. you have to change the frame mounts and fender size and stuff. but i don't know if it effects the handeling of the bike.
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Its cheaper to put it on cruisers than it is for sportbikes. Change to handling is very little on a cruiser. There was an article in one of the magazines on a guy that took a sportbike with a 240 to a track day. It surprised me, but he said it handled at probably 95%
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they're a lot wider and have more contact with the ground
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I build wide tire kits for sportbikes. I've put a 240 on a 600rr & lots of 300's on busas. You really don't notice they're back there unless you stretch them way out. There would be a difference in handling .....say in a road race, but you'd never notice the difference on the street. I've got a victory vegas that I switched over to the hammer model swingarm (240). Price can hold ya back.... but don't be overly worried about a handling change.
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i went to a 200/50-18 metz from a 160 stock on my shadow. handling was not really affected at all, if anything, it handles better (although the tire that was on previously was suuuper worn, so that also affected the handling...) Likes to stay upright, but doesn't complain when I lean it over...I'll still scrape the pegs on turns. , one day not too long ago I leaned a little too much and scraped the frame on the ground...back tire hopped off the pavement for a sec. Scared the outta me. Either way...your handling won't be negatively affected unless you're goin super fat. You go 240+, i'd imagine it won't like the twisties as much as it would with a 200

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Old 02-10-2010, 02:27 PM   #13
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A 200 looks good on yours, I liked that.
I'm at 190 now for my VTX 1300. I don't think that upgrading to a 200 would do much different. I may go to 220, just because 240 requires a lot of adjustments and mods.
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Putting more weight on the tire also slows you down more than adding weight anywhere else to the bike. Adding/shedding one pound of weight on wheels and tires is equal to 2 pounds anywhere else.
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Putting more weight on the tire also slows you down more than adding weight anywhere else to the bike. Adding/shedding one pound of weight on wheels and tires is equal to 2 pounds anywhere else.
maybe so...but if we were that concerned about speed, we wouldn't be riding cruisers, would we?

I added [I]maybe[I] 5 pounds going up to a 200 from a 160 (net wt gain after the whole swap...there was a sh*tload more to it than just a tire change...) but either way...no noticeable difference. Gearing adjustments can be made so you don't feel sluggish/underpowered.
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I have a 240 on my vrod, and I rode ones with the 180-200, not much difference really.
good to know. thanks for the input guys.
my bike got hit, and i may be able to upgrade a lot on my bike
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