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Old 02-05-2010, 08:50 PM   #1
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Exclamation Need Help w/ Painting Bike

Hey guys, since I really try to do EVERYTHING to my bike myself I really want to paint the bike the way I have been imaginin it. Its a basic Paint scheme- Satin Black (Low Gloss) with some words on the side in White and some green Pinstriping to finish it off. Well I dont know a whole lot about painting and just was wondering if any of ya'll could lend some tips with Prepping and Finishing and everything in between. Goin to use the original tins so if that helps some of ya'll know more to help me. A couple of questions off the bat
1. Whats best to get the Origianl Paint off?
2. Certain Primers or Brand Paints? (Thinkin about doin Spray can for Old Look)
3. I want it to be kinda like Flat Black but with some Very Low Shine- Is that considered Satin?

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Old 02-05-2010, 09:30 PM   #2
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I would stay away from spray can. Automotive paint is a two part process with the paint and hardener separate until you mix them. Spray cans have the hardener mixed in and because of that they never "really" cure. It can take a year for can paint to properly harden/cure whereas an automotive paint fully cures in a matter of hours.

Do you have a compressor? if so, you can get a HVLP gun from harbor freight on the cheap.

Build a paint booth with some wood/pvc and plastic sheets.

You don't need to strip the paint, some sand paper to rough it up with primer on top should do the trick.

PPG makes good paint especially for folks on a budget, match companies on paint/primer.

If you're painting plastics,use flex agent otherwise you'll get spider cracks.

Honestly, the best advice you're going to get is when you go to the paint store. They can tell you all about the different kinds of primers, types of paint, etc.


Painting is not easy, with all the curves and edges on a motorcycle it will be a pain to make it look good. You will spend A LOT of time sanding to get a quality finish, so make sure this is something you really want to do before you start.
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Oh yeah its something i Want, time doesnt bother me. I just love the satisfaction of me being able to say I did that, even if its not perfect! I was wanting an actual spray gun but didnt know how much they run and yes I do have a compressor. I want a spre gas tank to try on first tho!!!!
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Old 02-06-2010, 12:24 PM   #4
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I'm goin to try and build my paint booth in the next week and tryin to find a spare tank to practice on first.....anymore tips and tricks?
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Old 02-06-2010, 01:33 PM   #5
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Preparation is everything.
Paint will hide no surface imperfections. As stated before, if the paint on the tank is in good shape just rough it up, enough to knock the shine off. (paint store will advise what grit)
Use good quality materials. You will be dissatisfied otherwise.
Be prepared to spend at least $300. The materials are a large part of why decent paint work costs so much.
Buy, at least, an inline filter that goes between your compressor and gun. This will help eliminate oil and moisture from the compressor and tank.
Use paint filters whenever you pour anything from any container into another container. (you think it's all perfect but it's cheap insurance)
Pick a time and place where the conditions are right, humidity, temp, etc. Make sure you protect, best you can, against bugs. For some reason, all insects primary purpose in the world, is to commit suicide in fresh paint.
Don't disturb it for a couple days to make sure it is fully cured and hardened.
Don't polish or wax it for about a month.
A good paint job can be done at home if you take your time ask lots of questions and prepare, the surface as well as, prepare the actual operation of painting. Have everything you think you will need handy.

I hope you don't mind if I show off a paint job I did a couple years ago...

The color is a Honda color called "Hot Rod Pearl Yellow". It's the same as the GoldWings.

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A lot of prep time, Good quality clear and a good gun go a LONG way!
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If you have the money I would suggest seperate guns for primer, base (color), and clear. I guess it really depends on how nice you want it to come out.
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guys nice pics....those look great! Well I hope since I want an old school flat black look it'll make my job a little easier then gettin a perfect brilliant shine color that stands out more. Yeah my paint is in excellent shape but is a Denim Black and Silver from the factory, doesnt have alot of shine at all. Maybe this will help the roughin the paint up thing alot easier since theres hardly in shine (Gloss) to begin with
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guys nice pics....those look great! Well I hope since I want an old school flat black look it'll make my job a little easier then gettin a perfect brilliant shine color that stands out more. Yeah my paint is in excellent shape but is a Denim Black and Silver from the factory, doesnt have alot of shine at all. Maybe this will help the roughin the paint up thing alot easier since theres hardly in shine (Gloss) to begin with
Job should be the same. You will still need a clear coat on the flat black it will just give it a flat finish vs shiny. Prep work will all be the same and the painting itself.
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So a clear coat on flat black wont make it shiny? acts kinda just like a protective barrier?
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So a clear coat on flat black wont make it shiny? acts kinda just like a protective barrier?
correct the clear coat protects the paint. They made a special clear coat for flat paints.
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Keep us updated, with your progress. Black is the most difficult paint to do well because the imperfections will show through the most.

I agree with the in line filter. You want a rechargeable desiccant type filter also found on the cheap at Harbor Freight. Price on the gun should be around $50 or so (don't quote me on that). I wouldn't waste the money on a super expensive paint gun.
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bbq pit spray paint hols up good you will just need to repaint every 6 months only costs 6 bucks a can will not take more than two one the whole bike and goes on smooth and quick
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I'm goin to try and build my paint booth in the next week and tryin to find a spare tank to practice on first.....anymore tips and tricks?
might i suggest reading up on the subject.
there is more to it than aiming and spraying.

as with everything you do, prep is the key start to a quality job
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So a clear coat on flat black wont make it shiny? acts kinda just like a protective barrier?
yes indeed you need to do some reading. there is flattening agents to use in the clear, there are flat clears, gloss clears etc etc.
all paints wont need to be cleared for protection, you seriously need to do some reading and research with products, how they act etc etc etc
your not going to learn in the first day, but dont give up.
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