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Old 02-01-2010, 02:53 PM   #21
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Good to see a fellow problem-left-turner I think its something thats subconscience cause I seem to rock the right turns (well as well as a noob rider can, no knees yet), but when I approach a lefty, its like my mind has already made its mind up that Houston we have a problem, and it seems stressed. (note this isnt when just daily riding, but when rding at a higher rate of spped than normal...not that any of us do that) Definetly will be getting in at least ONE beginner track event, but hopefully more this season.
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Old 02-01-2010, 02:56 PM   #22
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If you are trying to hang off on the street you are doing it wrong anyhow. Just stick a knee out, point your toe, kiss the mirror, and turn your head. Too much hanging off just closes you up to the turn anyhow.
If you're riding on the street hving to get off the seat and stick a knee out then you're going to get hated on
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:09 PM   #24
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YEAH!! Learn to search, noob!
Anyways... I didn't notice too much of a difference between your cornering. I did notice that what you may consider getting off the seat is actually only half a cheek of movement. lol Since it's all mental, before you come up to a left hander take a deep breath, calm down, relax your arms and take the corner. Instead of trying to rail through them, take a step back and approach it slower then work your way back up to speed. If you get frustrated every time cause you're trying to fix it with speed, you'll end up making a mistake. So in essence, start over.
Or go to the track. lol
Ha, I don't believe you and I was railing through the forest Sunday night I guess I'll be out as much as possible on FM974 hitting those left handers.

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Thomas next time we ride I'll slow down so you can get in front. Maybe you need to lead and you'll feel less pressure to go fast.
That might help out too. I don't know if it was the pace Sunday.
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Thomas next time we ride I'll slow down so you can get in front. Maybe you need to lead and you'll feel less pressure to go fast.

lol Pace felt fine to me. Maybe Thomas is just a sissy.
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The pace was just fine but my poor little bike didn't do a good job of keeping up (was riding my Fiance's SV650). I did notice you were more comfortable on the right handers we slowed down a little more for left turns.

The cold and being unsure of your tires probably didn't help. I know you were saying something about having issues hooking up early in the ride.
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The pace was just fine but my poor little bike didn't do a good job of keeping up (was riding my Fiance's SV650). I did notice you were more comfortable on the right handers we slowed down a little more for left turns.

The cold and being unsure of your tires probably didn't help. I know you were saying something about having issues hooking up early in the ride.

That's what happens when he leaves only 15 lbs of pressure it them.
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That's what happens when he leaves only 15 lbs of pressure it them.
yeah I know. Definitely didn't feel comfortable the first part of the morning on 3090.
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yeah I know. Definitely didn't feel comfortable the first part of the morning on 3090.

Its alright man. It was too cold to do much more than walk through the corners anyways.
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Going on a couple of the newbie rides that Cali and Lurch held helped me out a lot. Advice the exp riders gave helped.

Might go to the track someday just have the fear of trashing my bike since I have a cloud of bad luck that likes to follow me at times.
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Come on some of the forest rides where we hit the parade laps etc.

Its a good transition.
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Come on some of the forest rides where we hit the parade laps etc.

Its a good transition.
Now that my tags aren't dead and I have insurance again I will be looking out for some more newbie rides.
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One will be popping up as soon as I finish the suspension on the new bike
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Come on some of the forest rides where we hit the parade laps etc.
Its a good transition.
I'm always down for the Forest Rides and ending up at the track to do parade laps will be the icing on the cake.
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I wanna play w the new 250... and no its not a kawi.... I couldnt bare to think the 650 army to see me as a lil brother lol
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I couldnt bare to think the 650 army to see me as a lil brother lol
You would be equal amongst us. Until you get a Kawasaki, the rivalry continues...............
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Feb 15th. Take your lunch break out on the parade laps at TWS (Texas World Speedway).
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So I've been thinking more about this question and I think there might be a way to help besides another recommendation to go to the track. I suspect that riders favoring a particular side might have to do with leaning and cornering "instinctively". It's quite possible that riders can turn one direction better than another because they don't purposefully turn into corners nor really consider exactly what they are doing to initiate and then sustain a turn.

Of course going to the track helps a rider learn this in spades, whether or not they think about the steps or methods they use to turn. So, for the street, here's what I'd recommend. First on your "good side" practice initiating the turn first using counter steering. I typically think about it as weighting the bar or the clip on in the direction I want to turn. Racers will talk about weighting clipons so heavily that they develop callouses. Weighting the bar is one way to describe it, but what's also (or perhaps really) happening is you are pushing the inside grip away from the turn. Try that first on your good side to initiate a turn and then try it on the other side.

The next method to explore to initiate and, even moreso, sustain a turn is to weight the inside peg. Start by weighting it lightly and as you get more confidence, you can weight it to the point that the vast majority of your weight is on the inside peg. When I say "vast majority" what I mean is that you aren't actually sitting on the bike... your weight is down low, supported by your feet on the rear sets. You really can steer the bike on the street almost exclusively with weight on the pegs, try it.

Lastly, also experiment with shifting your weight well in advance of the turn. This isn't some crazy - get way off the bike - shift, often it's a half a cheek or maybe as much as having the center of your on the edge of the seat.

By trying these things independently and then in combination, you can "re-learn" how you are turning in and sustaining a turn. As I mentioned earlier, I suspect riders turn "instinctively". As such, it's good to go back and think about how one actually turns a bike and practice the steps.

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