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Old 01-31-2010, 02:01 AM   #1
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2006 r6 slow start?

Hey all, I bought a 2006 r6 raven not too long ago. When I first bought the bike it would fire right up, I'd only have to hold the ignition for 2-3 seconds.

Recently I've been having to hold it for 5-10 seconds, not only that but sometimes it would start then quickly die again. I do let the fuel pump prime all the way, just in case anybody was wondering.

Also the times it does take 5-10 seconds to start, I'd take off (warm engine, i.e. gas station, etc...) I've noticed it is really low on power until I rev it past a certain RPM.

The bike only had 465 miles on it when I bought it in pristine condition. I changed out all the fluids prior to riding. Now the bike has around 800...

So if anyone else has an R6 that can relate? Or any motorcycle in fact..
This has never happened to me before on any bike. I've ridden my friend's Gixxers, Cbrs and older model r6. If anyone knows help me please!

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Old 01-31-2010, 02:03 AM   #2
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1. Word. WARRANTY!! Lol
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:14 AM   #3
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Seems to soon tohave to do this, but you mat need to change the plugs, and run some injector cleaner through it.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:23 AM   #4
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Way too soon. Why I say warranty that . There looking for work to do. It Gould be under warranty right? Fugggit
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:27 AM   #5
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I think the warranty is already out? Usually they have a 3-year option? or is it relative to mileage.

This is my first bike by the way, I've only ridden on my friend's bikes a few times, so I may seem a bit oblivious at times. Thanks guys for your responses.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:41 AM   #6
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It shouldn't be man. Call up the dealer where the other guy got it, and ask how long the warranty is good for. If it is i would almost have to say a default battery?
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Hrm okay will do first thing monday. I thought the battery might have been the culprit so I trickle charged it. Still had the same problem afterwards so I suppose we can rule that out..
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Hmm.. got me then.
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i had a similar problem in a car before, turned out to be some clogging the fuel filter... maybe the same? you're not running it tll its completely out of gas huh? they used to tell me that doing so would pull all the sediments in towards the pump and filter
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What does it idle at when it first starts?

If you're below the recommended 1250 +- 50 or whatever is recommended on your carb sticker fix that first. When a bike warms up the parameters change in engine operation.

Remember bikes are not finely tuned to mixture. They are set for rpm/load and everything is just assumed to work from their(open loop operation.)



Is it a long crank or slow crank? Sounds more like a long crank per explanation.

Enviromental conditions can also come into play. Again, the bike runs in open loop. Colder temperatures means a denser charge of air has to be accomidated for w fuel. Until idle is established and the bike is ran it may take a bit longer for it to fire off properly. I bet a quick bump after its at operating temperature is all it takes to start it after riding.
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Definately sounds like a fuel problem. There's a few diferent things it could be but I'd guess fuel pump is crapping out or the fpr is bad. Best thing to do is take it to a shop and let them diagnose it.
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I think folks are on the right track with fuel filter and suggestions of a plugged fuel filter. You might consider running a few tanks with Seafoam in it. You can get it at most autoparts stores... http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment/index.html

BTW, don't hesitate to plug the plugs and take a look as well.
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I think folks are on the right track with fuel filter and suggestions of a plugged fuel filter. You might consider running a few tanks with Seafoam in it. You can get it at most autoparts stores... http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment/index.html

BTW, don't hesitate to plug the plugs and take a look as well.
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Concerning the warranty I doubt there is any left. Original warranty is 1 year and if there was an extended warranty purchased it also is prob out.
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Unbolt the tank but leave the fuel pump connected then pull off the fuel line that goes into the fuel rail. Turn the bike on and let if prime and see if fuel comes out right away or if it takes a few seconds.
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mrT713: Nope I always fill up right when the gas light turns on.

CaligoneTx: I just started my bike... it would idle at around 1300-1500, once it hits 1.8k then it idles smoothly. Most of the time it's a long crank, only a few times does it have a slow crank at the beginning then gets progressively faster.

maxgs: On my way right now to pick up some sea foam.

2slow: I'll take a look at the fuel line if seafoam doesn't do it. Although not quite entirely sure how to unbolt the tank. I'm still somewhat of a noob, but I'll look it up or call a friend :P

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My bike (ZZR600) hates cold weather and acts the same way you describe, with the occasional backfire for added fun. Having a battery tender definitely helps, and some Sta-Bil in the tank if you know it's going to sit up for a while. Usually, though, after running for a few minutes after startup and a few miles on the road it runs just fine, and starts right up afterward. When the weather warms up, none of this happens.
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My bike (ZZR600) hates cold weather and acts the same way you describe, with the occasional backfire for added fun. Having a battery tender definitely helps, and some Sta-Bil in the tank if you know it's going to sit up for a while. Usually, though, after running for a few minutes after startup and a few miles on the road it runs just fine, and starts right up afterward. When the weather warms up, none of this happens.
That's because it's carburated. Most of em hate cold weather starts.
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Badapples 07 r6 does it. ChasEs bike does it. My buddies r1 does it. It's a yamaha. They all do that
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Well I just got off the phone with Yamaha customer relations. Apparently there's a recall check on the '06 r6. Since they're closed today going to go first thing tomorrow morning.

I'll let you guys know what's up, thanks.
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