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Old 01-28-2010, 04:42 PM   #1
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what is fly-by-throttle?

i hear its used in cars and bikes but never had an explanation? Does a gsxr have it?
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:43 PM   #2
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GSXR'S don't have anything that comes standard but squids.
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Pretty sure you're referring to an electronically controlled throttle. Doesn't use a cable to ope/close throttle, instead uses (im assuming) a potentiometer to determine throttle position.
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its fly-by-wire throttle. It means there's no physical connection between the accelerator and the throttle bodies. You twist your wrist (or press the gas) and the computer decides how much to open the throttle butterflies.
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i hear its used in cars and bikes but never had an explanation? Does a gsxr have it?
Most bikes have what are called butterflies in the intake. GSXR's have hornets.
That is why they don't need throttle-by-wire they have throttle-by-throttle.
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Most bikes have what are called butterflies in the intake. GSXR's have hornets.
That is why they don't need throttle-by-wire they have throttle-by-throttle.
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Two potentiometers for redundancy that cross eachother from a low-high/high-low scale in the center around 50%. This way if one fails the computer can guess and at least function a bit.

The advantage is more control of the computer to allow the air to be cut when traction is required vs only using the brakes to control unstable condiitons.

I could explain some of bmw's new suspension systems for traction but I dont want to make your head hurt. I will comment the struts can measure compression/rebound speed/pressure/load; the rear diff has built in clutches and can accelerate the outside wheels without even using engine torque($10k rear diff.)
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Two potentiometers for redundancy that cross eachother from a low-high/high-low scale in the center around 50%. This way if one fails the computer can guess and at least function a bit.

The advantage is more control of the computer to allow the air to be cut when traction is required vs only using the brakes to control unstable condiitons.

I could explain some of bmw's new suspension systems for traction but I dont want to make your head hurt. I will comment the struts can measure compression/rebound speed/pressure/load; the rear diff has built in clutches and can accelerate the outside wheels without even using engine torque($10k rear diff.)
Sounds awesome but the more computers get in the formula the less fun it is :(

Is fly by wire the same as drive by wire? Im really hating the drive by wire tech of the 09 corolla. It has a second or so lag...
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It is the same.

Manufactorers like to use different names for inheritantly the same controlling devices made by Simmons or Bosch.

Now how delicate, precise or controllable the devices are determines cost and how well they will respond.

The longer Toyota invests in the technology, the better it will get.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:00 PM   #11
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"fly by wire" basically was originated in aviation.

compared to the conventional cables for controlling moving wing surfaces of

- physical manpower (old WWI aircraft)
-hydraulic assist (WWII and up) but still had effort to be put in the control yoke, or flight stick.


later on it went to "fly by wire" meaning there was no extra effort to move the yoke or stick, other than a light push. electronics in the controls then told the hydraulics,pnuematics, and other actions how much to move, from initial input.

the "danger" from this set up is that one could hamfist the controls in every direction without feeling a thing,(only in the CONTROL! the aircraft would be self grenading around him) while the input could technically be in the process of breaking everything from extreme movement. (not that this happens as there are limitations (and pilots life) in place)


fly by wire/drive by wire, are going to be the same concept. but i would be surprised you could feel lag. i wouldnt think it would be noticeable.

(this has only been a fairly new concept in cars, maybe within the past 10 years) and usually a bit more on the high end. but as CALI stated, immersion makes improvement.

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