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Old 01-25-2010, 07:56 PM   #1
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Ninja 250 Question

I have a 03 ninja 250r that seems to need a quart of oil every couple of days I just put in a quart on Saturday and today Monday by the time i got back home there was no oil in the sight glass. I commute from 1960 to downtown about 35 miles each way daily there is never a oil puddle under the bike and i don't see any leakes anywhere is this normal?
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:59 PM   #2
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are you checking the oil correctly? you may be burning the oil. any smoke coming out the back that smells like oil?
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you don't see or smell it burning either? that's a lot of oil loss in a very short period of time...it is either leaking or burning. Or someone is messing with you and siphoning it out.
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High mileage?

Sounds like piston rings or a leak from valves into the combustion chamber(burning oil.)

A leak down of the cylinders will determine if the piston rings are not sealing as they should(combustion stroke, shop air is forced into cylinder and measured for sustained pressure in the cylinder. Also makes it possible to listen in the crankcase if the leak is pushing through the rings.
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That would be some mighty bad rings. There has to be some clue. If there is no puddle then smoke out of the exhaust or oil in your antifreeze (but that wouldnt eat up a quart too quickly).

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how many miles you got on that bike?
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bike was just released from Patricks crew like a week ago complete carb rebuild and major tune up, the bike does have high milage over 15k miles. No I dont usually smell anything burning whenever I do i'm usually behind a car so I cant tell if it's car exhaust or mine but I don't see any white smoke at all. I can always tell when its low on oil cause it doesn't run as smooth as it usually does.
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wow a quart is a bit much. I had a similiar problem but wasnt that much........... my oil was leaking due to a bad seal near the top of my head......... look up at the top of your motor any oil there?
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hmmm.. sounds weird. If Motorcycles Unlimited looked at the bike within the last week, they would have noticed something burning or leaking on a bike that misses a quart of oil over 3 days. How long has this been happening...Did this just appear?

If you see no apparant leaks and you are missing a qt and even if the leak was up top...you'd still see it on the ground one would think....I'm guessing you're burning oil...and the smoke would be blk/blue...not white.

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15k isnt alot.

And you're checking it w the bike sitting upright, not on the side stand correct?
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I checked it while it was both upright and on the side stand but I did just finish riding @ the time the sight glass was completely empty this is the second time this has happened the first time I noticed it was saturday but to be honest I wasn't really checking my oil daily before that.
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I checked it while it was both upright and on the side stand but I did just finish riding @ the time the sight glass was completely empty this is the second time this has happened the first time I noticed it was saturday but to be honest I wasn't really checking my oil daily before that.


Dude ALWAYS check your oil............. wheres RacerX?
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1. Oil gets checked with the bike upright.

2. Always best to let it sit a second after running it to get an accurate measurement.

3. I smell something fishy....

4. To second Cali's statement...15k is nothing.

5. Run it back by Motorcycles Unlimited....Patrick isn't gonna do you wrong.
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I have 12 on my 14........... never misses a beat
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yeah, 15k isnt much. there shouldnt be any major mechanical problems at that point, as long as it has had even decent maintenance.
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My recommendation would be to not fret over it.

1) let it cool overnight.

2) start it in the morning to go to work, let it idle and warm up for 5 minutes.

3) turn it off, let it sit for around 2 minutes then check the level while you are holding it upright(ideally get someone to hold it straight) and correct level as needed.

4) repeat until/if you see the level drop and then note the number of days.
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My recommendation would be to not fret over it.

check the level while you are holding it upright(ideally get someone to hold it straight) and correct level as needed.
its got that center stand that u could use too
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well I put in a quart today I'll keep a close eye on it the next couple of days to see whats up I ride mostly on 45 so I smell all kinds of exhaust fumes along the way but I hope im not overreacting and over filling it. What concerned me today was that it was not riding like normal and was geting pretty hot between my legs after I put in a quart and rode it around the block it seemed to be riding normaly again of course I didnt get it up to freeway speeds so
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Make sure the oil is correct too(crued vs syn) Syn oil is thinner per molecule and can actually burn alot quicker.

Summer heat is coming, it will get hot. Air cooled? My katana is and I put it through in the summer. I dont know how it keeps going
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