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Old 01-23-2010, 11:42 PM   #1
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Being a sweeper...

I decided to be sweeper [since i had the cutest engine] and now want tips from guys who have years of experience.

Tips, ideas, everything greatly appreciated.

texlurch, ill be waiting.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:07 AM   #2
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I was a awesore for 2 yrs till I started considering leading rides.


Basically its a matter of what you see willing to do for the leader and the group.

I'm gonna leave it at that and see how others respond first.
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I was a awesore for 2 yrs till I started considering leading rides.


Basically its a matter of what you see willing to do for the leader and the group.

I'm gonna leave it at that and see how others respond first.
Thanks for that but what? I kinda didnt get that.

Honestly, I have now experienced both leading and sweeping and although I have only swept once, I enjoy leading. I feel like I ride my pace [although also keeping my group in mind] when leading.
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Come ride w us sometime.

You need to be able to speak w the leader and communicate from a distance. The leader can control the gaps in the group by slowing down in straights etc. Every corner I ride I over exaggerate the lead corner etc. As a sweeper if the leader wishes you to block it is illegal. But your choice. When blocking a left turn don't block the cross over lane, no need for that. Its aatter of what they desire.

Above all, the sweeper should be complimentary to the leader w more or equal experiemce to what the leader wishes to accomlish. And be able to ride approx 50 percent their ability on that KNOWN route. First aid, experience on what to do during a wreck etc is inevitable. Will be first on the scene.

If I weren't slightly intoxicated and posting on my phone I'd add more
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Coachdave's ride had me leading and over 22 sweepers marked. They made the ride going ahead, blocking traffic etc. 160mls 115 bikes no police escort.curvy roads and many stoplights etc. They made it happen.
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Most ride I have been on, the leader of the ride will explain what he expects from his sweeper.

I can tell you what I expect from my sweeper.

No body is left behind. I stop at every intersection and wait until I see my sweeper cress the last hill or come around the last corner and give me a thumbs up before we take off on the next stretch of road.

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Come ride w us sometime.
You do not know how much I am looking forward to doing so. Schedule sucks. Ill be at that night ride with you guys.

Thanks for all the tips. I pack a small first-aid kit now whenever I go on rides.


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a post showed up above me. That point about leader communication is good. I should remember than whenever I lead. I guess this can also be a "learn to lead" thread as well.
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You do not know how much I am looking forward to doing so. Schedule sucks. Ill be at that night ride with you guys.

Thanks for all the tips. I pack a small first-aid kit now whenever I go on rides.
Yup yup! I have my little tank bag with first aid goodies and tire gear for group rides. Not ready to lead yet a group yet, but maybe sweep someday. I'm normally in the back of the group anyway. It might as well be for a reason.
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Sweeper should know the route
You never pass anyone in the group
Give a thumbs up to the leader when you catch up at stops or intersections
keep an eye on those ahead, and don't be afraid to let someone know if they are riding over their heads... I was one stop too late last time
good idea to have the leaders cell # as well
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Yup yup! I have my little tank bag with first aid goodies and tire gear for group rides. Not ready to lead yet a group yet, but maybe sweep someday. I'm normally in the back of the group anyway. It might as well be for a reason.
This was what I thought of... I thought that since I am the slowest might as well have a good name for it


Just a short story: At the beginning of the ride, when we reached the turns, I backed out a lot to prepare for the turn. While looking ahead of the turn I almost failed to realize the person in front of me. Definitely not a good thing.

It's a balance of keeping away from staring at the person in front of you and riding at their pace. I need more experience riding with someone in front of me. At my past rides, I was struggling to keep up. I guess I got used to that.
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keep an eye on those ahead, and don't be afraid to let someone know if they are riding over their heads... I was one stop too late last time
good idea to have the leaders cell # as well
There you are! Leader or anyone's # is good info too.
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Leave a good gap to those in front, and try to watch the roads and surroundings rather than the one in front of you. Use your peripheral vision to keep an eye on the others, but focus on the task at hand... unless you are dumb and bored and riding with one hand most of the time...

"Following lines" is a sure way to find some dirt samples.
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a sweeper has to be a seasoned rider as well as the leader...well, you dont want a noob sweeping...meaning a noob to riding or a noob to the route

just think...

if the sweeper crashes...it may be a really long while before someone realizes he is missing...then it's backtrack time because, theoretically, nobody saw him crash since he is in the back
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All good advice above.

The sweeper should have the leader and go back person's phone #

It is also a good idea for the sweeper to remind/ensure people gas up at all stops. It is a major issue if people start running out of gas.

Anyone who is veering off the route early needs to let the sweeper know they will be missing.
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lol I almost had that scare when I was sweeping last Monday through the forest. There was some distance between me and the guy in front of me... came over the hill doing a notch over the speed limit to find a Sheriff's Suburban doing about 10 mph. Ask NinjaGirl636... I've never said so many fvcks in a short time period. Luckily, he was just there to scare us.
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Patience is required... especially if you have riders who have never been on the route before.
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