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Old 01-19-2010, 09:45 PM   #1
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Bike Shifting into neutral

I have an 03 sv650s that has a weird shifting problem I never encountered before. It seems like my bike have a hard time shifting into neutral. It only seems to happen when the temp gauges read about 190. I can shift into first with no problem but it's considerablly harder to shift into neutral and second. And it seems to happen when I'm just sitting there on the bike. Anyone have any idea what seems to be the problem?
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my 96 suzuki has weird little problems too with shifting into neutral and first once the engine is nice and warmed up. I would definitely change the oil and go with a different viscosity. I don't know if you should go thicker or thinner, that's what I'm trying to decide on mine.
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if simply shifting into neutral from first, or neutral to second.....or just rowing up thru the gears...while STOPPED/SITTING.

You have to move the bike forward a few inches or more for the gears to mesh...not every time, but in a lot of cases, and other times they all seem to be lined up.


cant say thats the exact cause, but in a lot of cases it is. it could be other issues, but again its mostly cases i have seen, its just a gear mesh thing. now if it happens while RIDING....different story(and most of above wont apply.)
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Wonder if these bikes get notches in the clutch basket that cause the clutch steels to hang up and act like that.
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my 96 suzuki has weird little problems too with shifting into neutral and first once the engine is nice and warmed up. I would definitely change the oil and go with a different viscosity. I don't know if you should go thicker or thinner, that's what I'm trying to decide on mine.
That's what I'm thinking about doing. The previous owner said he changed it not too long ago but I guess I better change it just to be sure. I also read about adjusting the clutch cable. Not too sure if that has anything to do with it though
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Have you check the Cluth levers tightness? Could be over tightened.
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Have you check the Cluth levers tightness? Could be over tightened.
Is that the cable attatched to the lever itself or going further down leading to the engine?

I rode from 290 all the way to pasadena without any of this going on when I first bought it so I dunno what's going on with it.
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Is that the cable attatched to the lever itself or going further down leading to the engine?

I rode from 290 all the way to pasadena without any of this going on when I first bought it so I dunno what's going on with it.
Cable attached to the lever. There should be a little play in it.
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if simply shifting into neutral from first, or neutral to second.....or just rowing up thru the gears...while STOPPED/SITTING.

You have to move the bike forward a few inches or more for the gears to mesh...not every time, but in a lot of cases, and other times they all seem to be lined up.


cant say thats the exact cause, but in a lot of cases it is. it could be other issues, but again its mostly cases i have seen, its just a gear mesh thing. now if it happens while RIDING....different story(and most of above wont apply.)
That's what I figured was the cause on mine, but it only happens once I've been riding for 30 mins or more. I downshift down to neutral every time I come to a stop, I guess I need to get in the habit of going down to 1st while I'm still rolling, instead of once I come to a stop.
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some bikes are sensitive to clutch cable adjustment. Its free to try. I have to keep no more than a hair of slack on mine or I start getting neutral problems.
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just finished looking at the clutch cable and there was enough play to meet the manufacturer's setting. Looked at the oil and it looks like its been overfilled. According to other forums, it looks like this may be the problem so I'll just change it this weekend. As for shifting into neutral, seems to be ok whenever I come to neutral whenever the bike is still in motion, so for now I'll just stick to that. Hope this won't affect the bike
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get that clutch out and inspect everything, basket notching and friction plates.
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I have problems shifting into 1st, could that be the same type of adjustment?
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I have problems shifting into 1st, could that be the same type of adjustment?
Yes. Clutch cable adjustment is important. Make you sure you have a very small amount of slack in the lever when the cutch is fully released.
There are other adjustments but you really need a manual or mechanic to get into that.
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How long have you had the bike? I had one that had issues shifting into neutral when i was stopped. If the bike was moving it would go into neutral no problem. Try that and see if its the same for you.
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Opps didnt see your last post there. That said exactly what I said.
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Check oil first.

Then, go to svrider, search "clutch mantra" and perform the adjustment. Doing what is listed actually "sets" clutch engagment point rather than just taking up slack in cable.
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How long have you had the bike? I had one that had issues shifting into neutral when i was stopped. If the bike was moving it would go into neutral no problem. Try that and see if its the same for you.
Mine does the same thing...
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Chk oil, too much oil could cause shifting problem, if not the clutch cable,
i had the same thing happening with the ol'SV.
i suggest talking to Patrick he knows all there's to know about SVs.
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