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Old 01-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #1
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battery question.....

what causes batteries to go bad?
Is the acid in the battery? can you just replace the acid and be on your way?
or is there something else that goes wrong?
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:05 AM   #2
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Chemical reaction between the lead plates and the acid.


The lead is extracted by recycling plants, melted down then refurbished. The acid is what allows the plates of the positive and negative terminals(which dont touch inside the battery itself but are interlaced (+ - + - + -)
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:44 AM   #3
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I know for sure that HEAT and letting the battery just set without running a charge through them will cause them to go bad, and to the point of not being able to charge them or have them hold a charge. Also, the liquid, usually sulfuric acid has to be at a certain level in order to maintain the reactions. I have used distilled water to refill car batteries in the past but in the end if you can afford the $30 - $115 bucks for a new battery, it is worth it, even if it has to be replaced in 8 months.

A friend of mine sayes that he typically sees about 8 - 12 months battery life from a motorcycle battery, at $30 for 8 months, buying a new one is easy to do, and filling the battery with acid is easy, just make sure you have baking soda VERY CLOSE on hand.
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I know for sure that HEAT and letting the battery just set without running a charge through them will cause them to go bad, and to the point of not being able to charge them or have them hold a charge. Also, the liquid, usually sulfuric acid has to be at a certain level in order to maintain the reactions. I have used distilled water to refill car batteries in the past but in the end if you can afford the $30 - $115 bucks for a new battery, it is worth it, even if it has to be replaced in 8 months.

A friend of mine sayes that he typically sees about 8 - 12 months battery life from a motorcycle battery, at $30 for 8 months, buying a new one is easy to do, and filling the battery with acid is easy, just make sure you have baking soda VERY CLOSE on hand.
That does not seem right, i've seen many go way past that
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Many dont ride their bikes and recharge the battery regularly.
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I still have the original in my 01' FZ1.

What causes batteries to go bad is usually one of two things.

1) Sulfation of the plates, where deposits of lead sulfate coat the plates. It is a product of the chemical reaction and can be slowed by keeping the battery as close to fully charged as possible. That's why a battery tender is a good idea, it will extend the life of the battery. (also deposits from tap water will accumulate)

2) Internal breakdown of the battery structure. Either the plates break loose from vibration or the cardboard seperators allow the plates to touch and that shorts out part of the battery. That puts additional load on the rest of the plates and it cascades into general failure from heat buildup.
Vibration and poor maintenance is what kills bike batteries most often.

Replacing the acid won't help as it's not used up, it's still in there.
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That does not seem right, i've seen many go way past that
your right, depends on the battery you buy. $30.00 battery from Walmart or Autozone isn't a Yubasa that will last years.
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Or if you do run alot of extra electronics, leds between long crank intervals etc I'd recommend the walmart batteries w the 2yr warranty... and frequent replacements lol
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