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Old 12-18-2009, 01:04 AM   #21
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FACT:

Eric Falt - CMRA #1 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
Connor Blevins - CMRA #2 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
Jon Francis - CMRA #3 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
Gary Giarratano - CMRA #4 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
Brandon Warren - CMRA #5 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
Ted Phillips - CMRA #6 Expert Overall - Dunlop
Danny Kelsey - CMRA #7 Expert Overall - Michelin
Derek Wagnon - CMRA #8 Expert Overall - Bridgestone
John Orchard - CMRA #9 Expert Overall - Pirelli
Gil Epperson - CMRA #10 Expert Overall - Bridgestone



100% Fact right there. No debate about it - 70% of the CMRA top 10 experts are on Bridgestones.
technically yes its fact but its just a correlation. the fact that its a popular choice does not mean the actual tires are responsible for the wins. as stated by those more knowledgeable than I, it comes down to personal preference and experience with a brand and not some magical property that makes you a better racer
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technically yes its fact but its just a correlation. the fact that its a popular choice does not mean the actual tires are responsible for the wins. as stated by those more knowledgeable than I, it comes down to personal preference and experience with a brand and not some magical property that makes you a better racer

Maybe, but it is a fact that the majority of the top 10 CMRA racers from 2009 have the 'personal preference' of Bridgestone. Just like none of them have the 'personal preference' of Shinko. If everyone's doing it, there's probably a reason for it.
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I happen to like Michelin and Pirelli Gabe. I've been on BStones and I don't dislike them. I hate Dunlop though, w/ a passion.

But the fact is, if he didn't get the bike to work w/ the tires he doesn't know what the tires are like.
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But the fact is, if he didn't get the bike to work w/ the tires he doesn't know what the tires are like.
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maybe i can help.
not what i heard or read, but have personel exp.
all of the name brands are good.(have won on all) one may work better at one track than another, and visa versa. its hard to judge a tire in an afternoon, unless u already have some geometery #'s, and an idea for suspension. it has taken as many as 2-3 weekends to get my bike,and myself adj. to new tires.
my advise for you is to do some research, and make your decision on these points.

in no particular order:

-contengency- what you may have a chance at...win, top 3, top 10??????
-vendor-the PEOPLE you will be dealing with on a regular basis, sometimes in a somewhat stressful situation, they have the knowledge to, and will take the time with you for your personell needs...bike set-up, presures, etc.
-availability-know they will have the tires "you want" at the track consistently. (this has been a problem more than u may think)

note: part of being a good rider is to be able to adapt/adjust to, changing conditions, bikes, TIRES, etc.
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Maybe, but it is a fact that the majority of the top 10 CMRA racers from 2009 have the 'personal preference' of Bridgestone. Just like none of them have the 'personal preference' of Shinko. If everyone's doing it, there's probably a reason for it.
Alright mister smarty pants. I want you to think about something. At the last race which tires where pitting sown faster laptimes?? And the top 3 experts where all beat by me on a set of michilins. I've proven that I can win the number 1 plate before so let's assume judging by the last race of the year that I can still win it based on I ran faster laptimes then the top 3. Tht would have put a michilin up top. Now how about if Ty Howard made the it the whilst season and didn't get hurt. You would have had a different tire at the top spot. (I'm pretty sure he doesn't ride bridgestones I could be wrong tho) ooor how about domingeZ. He's running dunlops. I don't consider myself a top rider in the cmra but in the lightwieght class I am one of the top guys. And none of the faster riders are running bridgestones. Sooo. Judging by that. Bridgestones are a more popular tire cuz hutch has some bad prices aand cuz he's an awesome vendor.

Sooo to the original poster. find out what works best for you. Which vendor and contingency works best for you
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Ooh yea. I forgot one thing. The bridgestone slicks work great on the sv. The dots suck tho. IMO
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way to kill a thread romeo.
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What are the warm-up temperatures for the track tires, not including the slicks.
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What are the warm-up temperatures for the track tires, not including the slicks.
Warm up? What info are you looking for?
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Ty ran the fastest lap at the last race, on Dunlops..he probably would have done it on any tires.

Domingues was right behind him and then Wagnon on stones.

Somewhere around the 5th fastest time were Michellins. Who is the fastest on Michellins anyway? Kelsey? Burleson?

No point except that good riders can probably go fast on anything.

And what tires were all the lap records set on?
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And what tires were all the lap records set on?

Whatever / whoever brand that was sponsoring Ty when he set them...
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Whats good street psi for tire life and economy.
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Maybe a couple pounds higher then race pressure.
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let's assume judging by the last race of the year that I can still win it based on I ran faster laptimes then the top 3.


right...



it's not like there's a video of you running 51's at TWS (Texas World Speedway) out there or anything.




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right...



it's not like there's a video of you running 51's at TWS (Texas World Speedway) out there or anything.




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The record at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on a liter bike was set by Dane Westby on Dunlops 211s.
The record at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on a 600 was set by Dustin Dominguez on Dunlops 211s.
The record at Hallett CCW on a liter bike Dane Westby on Dunlops 211s.
The record at Cressen CCW on a 600 Dustin Dominguez on Dunlops 211s.
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Found the link...nevermind.
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Found the link...nevermind.
Just for the record the Clockwise Cresson record is held by Ty Howard on Pirelli
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