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Old 12-15-2009, 01:04 PM   #1
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Muzzy?

Anyone have any experience with the muzzy e series full stainless exhaust for the gen 1 busa?

http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/ca...showprevnext=1

Everything else on the bike is stock. What kind of gains can I expect? Will I need a power commander and/or a tune?

Do any of the local sponsors sell this muzzy and have a price close to what is listed on the schnitz site?
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:11 PM   #2
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you'll probably want a pcIII for a full exhaust.

But ask Cali, wasn't his a Muzzy?
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:42 PM   #3
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Yup I had a full muzzy system.

Some say PCM isnt required because the busa runs rich already, and by my pcm numbers it appears correct, most mid range was leaning out the injection. Motorcycles Unlimited gave me a better map then the download.

The weight makes the most amount of difference. I also cut about 6 inches out of the muffler. I remember the ground use to rumble next to the bike... it was loud but manageable w others that rode w me.

This was 2 days before bike was stolen... painted the intermediate pipe, shortened the muzzy and the bike is lifted for more ground clearance on the track.

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Old 12-15-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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get a slip-on, spend the rest of the $ money on trackdays

or get the full xhaust, PCIII, dyno tune all for 5-6hp (~roughly $1500)
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the slip-ons i've seen cost more than the full exhaust I posted above.

cali, what exactly did you do to lift the bike? was it higher than stock?
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Dam I miss that bike.

It was going to be a multi-stage process. I bought the soupys raising links, Patrick spec-ed the bike out so I wouldnt go over the 105deg front rake and determined I think 3/4" lifted in the rear was as far as I could go. Before then I lowered the front w an upper tree half to 3/4" but that was pretty aggressive. It handled alot better w the rear lifted but I looked like a kid tip toeing the bike lol.

I have the upper tree if you want it; I have no use for it so just pick it up. I also have a list of all the crazy mods I did.

Here's a pic w the front lowered, not the back. You can see Im not even into the turn yet and was getting low on the fairings; that's why the timing case covers were being dragged on the track. I never got the chance to go back to the track after lifting the bike. But didnt have any problems when getting low on the backroads.

Again, Dam I miss that bike.

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The Muzzys on the 12R requires a bit of tuning, they have a flat spot down low... not sure if the Busa is any better.

You loose some weight, gain some HP. Best gains will be with K&N or BMC filters.
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One more cuz now Im . fkn thieves.

BTW, I have a full stock header, rear seat and rear handle if you want those too. I have no need for them.

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Im running one on an 08. On a dyno that I feel is on the conservative side Im a little over 184HP. I have a Bazzaz tuner and a K&N. I had a dyno tune done also. Joe has the Brocks which is reported to add the most HP. He has the same HP within .5 hp. Its not too loud either.
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maybe you'll get another busa one of these days. so you raised the rear 3/4" above stock and kept the front lowered 1/2-3/4" below stock? thanks for the offer on the upper. mine's already lowered.
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I put the front back to stock. 3/4" is as much as I could raise the rear and not cause the front to buckle and slip out in hard cornering.
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Im running one on an 08. On a dyno that I feel is on the conservative side Im a little over 184HP. I have a Bazzaz tuner and a K&N. I had a dyno tune done also. Joe has the Brocks which is reported to add the most HP. He has the same HP within .5 hp. Its not too loud either.
do you know what the hp difference is before and after the tune? how much does that cost and who did the tune?

bazzaz vs pcIII? after searching, can't really tell which is better. but Motorcycles Unlimited looks like it has a great christmas sale on the PCIII.
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I put the front back to stock. 3/4" is as much as I could raise the rear and not cause the front to buckle and slip out in hard cornering.
oh ok, that makes sense.
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You loose some weight, gain some HP. Best gains will be with K&N or BMC filters.
skip the exhaust and only change the air filter?
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Bazzaz will control all 8 injectors PC won't (without 2 units) Its pretty easy to decide which is better.
Billy at Tejas did the tune. I didnt do a base line. I think it was 250.00.
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I put on a full ti muzzy system also, lost alot of weight, and I used the yosh box to adjust, which I have if U need it done, in the early days the muzzy was the very best for the busas, there are others that are better now
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The Brocks Alien Head is supposed to be the best. Joe and I have the exact same set up and his HP is within .5 hp. He has the race K&N and I run the regular one.
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Bazzaz will control all 8 injectors PC won't (without 2 units) Its pretty easy to decide which is better.
Billy at Tejas did the tune. I didnt do a base line. I think it was 250.00.
The FIRST Gen Busa only has 4 injectors, so that's a non issue.

I would go with a PC 3, and the Muzzy is a good system. Schnitz bought the rest of the older Muzzy closeouts do that's a killer price.

A tune is not necessary but will give you a bit more.
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thanks for the info. how much is a bit more (is it worth it)?
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Its more to do with the weight savings.
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